1 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:19,030 [Music] 2 00:00:28,540 --> 00:00:24,930 you're in the para cast the gold 3 00:00:35,570 --> 00:00:28,550 standard of paranormal radio and now 4 00:00:36,979 --> 00:00:35,580 here's gene Steinberg with Gian Chris 5 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:36,989 and I should tell you that we're doing 6 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:39,690 this show early on a Saturday morning 7 00:00:45,860 --> 00:00:43,050 and Chris has been immersed in that book 8 00:00:48,710 --> 00:00:45,870 stalking the herd for so many weeks that 9 00:00:51,860 --> 00:00:48,720 he's probably just exhausted back I hear 10 00:00:55,580 --> 00:00:51,870 him breathing hard it's it's more of a 11 00:00:58,580 --> 00:00:55,590 relief Jane I'm just I'm just glad that 12 00:01:00,560 --> 00:00:58,590 it's over well I have been forced in my 13 00:01:03,470 --> 00:01:00,570 life to do these production line 14 00:01:05,900 --> 00:01:03,480 computer books and I've done books of a 15 00:01:08,570 --> 00:01:05,910 thousand pages and more but you have not 16 00:01:10,670 --> 00:01:08,580 6 months or 15 years to write one you 17 00:01:13,999 --> 00:01:10,680 have maybe six weeks at the most 18 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:14,009 that's insanity there's a word for it 19 00:01:20,719 --> 00:01:18,810 hellish I hoped it paid you good frankly 20 00:01:23,990 --> 00:01:20,729 more than you get for a flying saucer or 21 00:01:25,490 --> 00:01:24,000 generic paranormal book yeah but it's 22 00:01:28,190 --> 00:01:25,500 happened such a way that you'll never 23 00:01:30,170 --> 00:01:28,200 earn out what I mean by earn out folks 24 00:01:33,500 --> 00:01:30,180 is normally when you write a book you 25 00:01:36,710 --> 00:01:33,510 get usually in advance against royalties 26 00:01:38,750 --> 00:01:36,720 and if the book exceeds that level they 27 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:38,760 start sending you money like every month 28 00:01:43,310 --> 00:01:41,610 every quarter every six months usually 29 00:01:46,130 --> 00:01:43,320 several months after they do their 30 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:46,140 accounting so you don't get the riches 31 00:01:52,789 --> 00:01:50,250 right away but if the book doesn't turn 32 00:01:55,460 --> 00:01:52,799 out meaning that the amount due to you 33 00:01:57,649 --> 00:01:55,470 exceeds what they paid you you see 34 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:57,659 nothing and in computer books they got 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:01:58,530 down to a science 36 00:02:04,429 --> 00:02:01,650 they were always within 50 dollars more 37 00:02:05,569 --> 00:02:04,439 or less so either I was 50 dollars short 38 00:02:09,020 --> 00:02:05,579 they're not going to ask for the money 39 00:02:11,030 --> 00:02:09,030 back or they owe me 50 dollars very 40 00:02:13,150 --> 00:02:11,040 seldom did I ever get a really good 41 00:02:16,670 --> 00:02:13,160 royalty except once I think I got like 42 00:02:19,100 --> 00:02:16,680 $7,000 but one month's sales that was 43 00:02:21,949 --> 00:02:19,110 nice that's how production line book 44 00:02:23,990 --> 00:02:21,959 writing works it's not like all these 45 00:02:25,789 --> 00:02:24,000 famous authors who make millions it's 46 00:02:28,670 --> 00:02:25,799 not like Tom Clancy but I didn't help 47 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:28,680 Tom Clancy he died young and he people 48 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:31,650 say he was killed you think so 49 00:02:39,649 --> 00:02:37,650 he knew too much about what oh well his 50 00:02:44,149 --> 00:02:39,659 first book Hunt for Red October 51 00:02:46,490 --> 00:02:44,159 but for red pill junky hunt for red pill 52 00:02:49,220 --> 00:02:46,500 junky let explain this was turned into a 53 00:02:51,770 --> 00:02:49,230 major motion picture no hunt from Red 54 00:02:53,770 --> 00:02:51,780 October he came up with this concept of 55 00:02:56,869 --> 00:02:53,780 a caterpillar Drive which was a secret 56 00:02:59,809 --> 00:02:56,879 Russian drive system on the submarine 57 00:03:02,179 --> 00:02:59,819 and naval intelligence paid him a visit 58 00:03:03,770 --> 00:03:02,189 and interrogated him said how did you 59 00:03:05,569 --> 00:03:03,780 know about this new development in 60 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:05,579 submarine technology and he just made it 61 00:03:08,330 --> 00:03:06,090 up 62 00:03:09,890 --> 00:03:08,340 and turns out that he had kind of 63 00:03:14,750 --> 00:03:09,900 spilled the beans on the classified 64 00:03:16,910 --> 00:03:14,760 naval project ooh that hurts well they 65 00:03:20,119 --> 00:03:16,920 paid attention to him after that and he 66 00:03:22,569 --> 00:03:20,129 became you know pretty connected on some 67 00:03:25,300 --> 00:03:22,579 of the highest levels in the military in 68 00:03:29,059 --> 00:03:25,310 shall we say the espionage communities 69 00:03:30,860 --> 00:03:29,069 well I knew him way back when one time 70 00:03:33,140 --> 00:03:30,870 were two times I helped him with his 71 00:03:35,119 --> 00:03:33,150 computer and he was using a Mac at the 72 00:03:38,629 --> 00:03:35,129 time don't know if he continued using a 73 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:38,639 Mac but I helped him with a few things 74 00:03:43,539 --> 00:03:41,010 like setting up a CD drive on his 75 00:03:46,580 --> 00:03:43,549 computer I met him a couple of times at 76 00:03:48,259 --> 00:03:46,590 Macworld expose these er the trade shows 77 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:48,269 for people who use Apple Macintosh 78 00:03:52,729 --> 00:03:51,120 computers Apple no longer participates 79 00:03:55,069 --> 00:03:52,739 in those but that's another story so 80 00:03:57,949 --> 00:03:55,079 anyway I met him a couple of times and I 81 00:04:01,610 --> 00:03:57,959 listened to him tell stories and he just 82 00:04:04,819 --> 00:04:01,620 loved to tell stories about Tom Clancy 83 00:04:07,309 --> 00:04:04,829 it was all about Tom Clancy and he 84 00:04:09,140 --> 00:04:07,319 didn't think much of a lot of people I 85 00:04:12,050 --> 00:04:09,150 guess who were involved in making movies 86 00:04:13,610 --> 00:04:12,060 of his stories so for example in two of 87 00:04:16,310 --> 00:04:13,620 the movies based on the Jack Ryan 88 00:04:17,620 --> 00:04:16,320 character his most popular character 89 00:04:20,420 --> 00:04:17,630 Harrison Ford 90 00:04:22,969 --> 00:04:20,430 played the role he didn't think Harrison 91 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:22,979 Ford was very bright to put it mildly 92 00:04:28,189 --> 00:04:25,530 and he made that very clear 93 00:04:30,409 --> 00:04:28,199 so that was Tom Clancy I lost touch with 94 00:04:33,379 --> 00:04:30,419 him and anyway they have a new movie out 95 00:04:35,899 --> 00:04:33,389 now with Jack Ryan character featuring 96 00:04:37,969 --> 00:04:35,909 Chris Pine who's also doing Captain Kirk 97 00:04:40,070 --> 00:04:37,979 in the new Star Trek series it got 98 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:40,080 decent reviews but hasn't done well at 99 00:04:42,380 --> 00:04:41,610 the box office so maybe that's the end 100 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:42,390 of that 101 00:04:48,350 --> 00:04:45,930 arctor there you go Chris we're gonna be 102 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:48,360 doing one or two special episodes with 103 00:04:53,390 --> 00:04:51,690 you about stalking the herd it's now on 104 00:04:56,180 --> 00:04:53,400 sale it's at the printer it's gonna be 105 00:04:58,760 --> 00:04:56,190 out end of February you can place orders 106 00:05:01,370 --> 00:04:58,770 now and Chris is taking orders at his 107 00:05:04,010 --> 00:05:01,380 site our strange planet comet and the 108 00:05:05,540 --> 00:05:04,020 reason I mentioned that over Amazon well 109 00:05:07,430 --> 00:05:05,550 two reasons number one Chris gets all 110 00:05:10,010 --> 00:05:07,440 the money that's nice and he'll 111 00:05:11,620 --> 00:05:10,020 autograph the book until his hands fall 112 00:05:14,630 --> 00:05:11,630 off okay 113 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:14,640 wouldn't that be nice now is there any 114 00:05:18,950 --> 00:05:16,290 truth to the rumor that you are going to 115 00:05:20,540 --> 00:05:18,960 do this ambidextrous you know when your 116 00:05:22,820 --> 00:05:20,550 hand gets tired signing with your right 117 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:22,830 hand you'll sign with your left hand no 118 00:05:28,850 --> 00:05:25,050 but I'll tell you when the local 119 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:28,860 bookstore in the San Luis Valley called 120 00:05:33,530 --> 00:05:30,810 me up after my first book had come out 121 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:33,540 and they said we have somebody's heading 122 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:35,010 up your way we're bringing up some books 123 00:05:43,220 --> 00:05:37,410 for you to sign I said okay they walked 124 00:05:44,930 --> 00:05:43,230 in with 15 cases of books the first time 125 00:05:46,850 --> 00:05:44,940 I ever got literally got what writers 126 00:05:48,980 --> 00:05:46,860 cramp and I had to stop and like 127 00:05:52,670 --> 00:05:48,990 somebody had to massage my hand because 128 00:05:56,030 --> 00:05:52,680 what 72 book Cynthia Teena case it was 129 00:05:59,120 --> 00:05:56,040 ridiculous I don't want to do that again 130 00:06:02,090 --> 00:05:59,130 I want to spread it out over you know at 131 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:02,100 least a couple of days okay so when you 132 00:06:05,990 --> 00:06:03,690 order a book from Chris it may take a 133 00:06:07,730 --> 00:06:06,000 couple of days to get one as soon as I 134 00:06:09,770 --> 00:06:07,740 have them to turn around to be no time 135 00:06:12,070 --> 00:06:09,780 at all but you know again it's at the 136 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:12,080 printer so it won't be out for another 137 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:14,850 minimum three weeks maximum five weeks 138 00:06:21,230 --> 00:06:19,410 that's a big book it's 500 like 63 pages 139 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:21,240 plus what we call the front matter and 140 00:06:25,610 --> 00:06:23,130 the front matter is like the 141 00:06:27,860 --> 00:06:25,620 introduction it's like the foreword 142 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:27,870 that's another ten fifteen pages the 143 00:06:34,460 --> 00:06:29,850 table of contents and everything well 144 00:06:37,700 --> 00:06:34,470 it's it's it's about 585 pages total 145 00:06:40,670 --> 00:06:37,710 mm-hmm it's a thick book it's a great 146 00:06:42,350 --> 00:06:40,680 read we didn't make the type too small 147 00:06:45,230 --> 00:06:42,360 Chris was saying you know maybe we can 148 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:45,240 have a few less pages if you make the 149 00:06:50,090 --> 00:06:47,610 type smaller but I pointed out to him 150 00:06:51,530 --> 00:06:50,100 that then people can't read it and you 151 00:06:54,269 --> 00:06:51,540 wouldn't want to have to give a copy of 152 00:07:00,599 --> 00:06:56,459 well most people that read books now are 153 00:07:01,229 --> 00:07:00,609 our age so well that is true that is 154 00:07:03,329 --> 00:07:01,239 true 155 00:07:04,559 --> 00:07:03,339 you know we're older kind of people but 156 00:07:06,749 --> 00:07:04,569 that's how it goes so we'll have some 157 00:07:09,929 --> 00:07:06,759 great shows this is the definitive work 158 00:07:12,809 --> 00:07:09,939 on cattle mutilations it's not filled 159 00:07:15,749 --> 00:07:12,819 with a lot of crazy unproven mysticism 160 00:07:17,759 --> 00:07:15,759 it's all facts and research and stuff 161 00:07:19,889 --> 00:07:17,769 that you can back up I've got a little 162 00:07:21,779 --> 00:07:19,899 bit of everything gene it's it's got 163 00:07:24,539 --> 00:07:21,789 some pretty crazy stuff in there as well 164 00:07:27,479 --> 00:07:24,549 but it all depends what you definition 165 00:07:29,939 --> 00:07:27,489 to crazy as to me crazy is you know 166 00:07:32,789 --> 00:07:29,949 scientifically impossible cases that 167 00:07:35,339 --> 00:07:32,799 just you know kind of deal your ears 168 00:07:37,859 --> 00:07:35,349 back and there's a number of those in 169 00:07:40,019 --> 00:07:37,869 there okay well we're gonna peel back 170 00:07:42,299 --> 00:07:40,029 the mystery there speaking of things to 171 00:07:45,829 --> 00:07:42,309 peel back we're gonna peel back the 172 00:07:49,549 --> 00:07:45,839 mysteries of an interesting and really 173 00:07:53,069 --> 00:07:49,559 fascinating character who's a blogger 174 00:07:54,809 --> 00:07:53,079 he's a very active participant in our 175 00:07:59,189 --> 00:07:54,819 forums that formed off the power cast 176 00:08:04,289 --> 00:07:59,199 calm and we decided to get him on the 177 00:08:06,389 --> 00:08:04,299 show he's known as red pill junky and 178 00:08:10,139 --> 00:08:06,399 that of course has a lot of connotations 179 00:08:14,069 --> 00:08:10,149 that I don't wish to mention but I'm 180 00:08:16,049 --> 00:08:14,079 gonna ask you rpj or red or whatever you 181 00:08:17,749 --> 00:08:16,059 would like to be called and we won't 182 00:08:21,389 --> 00:08:17,759 call you late for dinner 183 00:08:23,369 --> 00:08:21,399 how did you get that name I mean you 184 00:08:27,089 --> 00:08:23,379 weren't born as red pill junky we know 185 00:08:29,850 --> 00:08:27,099 that there's a fan of the matrix I'm a 186 00:08:31,649 --> 00:08:29,860 plan of the matrix but also I think that 187 00:08:35,939 --> 00:08:31,659 the reason I chose the name is because 188 00:08:39,809 --> 00:08:35,949 by 1999 which was the year that the 189 00:08:43,019 --> 00:08:39,819 first Matrix movies was released I was 190 00:08:49,350 --> 00:08:43,029 already deep in the story of Carlos 191 00:08:52,019 --> 00:08:49,360 Castaneda do tell well for me the 192 00:08:57,179 --> 00:08:52,029 similarities between the plot of the 193 00:09:01,369 --> 00:08:57,189 movie and the pulsing of Carlos were too 194 00:09:05,429 --> 00:09:01,379 many to ignore me and neo was Carlos 195 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:05,439 Morpheus was Don Juan the red pill was 196 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:08,170 an allegory for all the power plan 197 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:12,370 carlos consumed during his first years 198 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00:14:22,430 para cast calm our guest this week is 296 00:14:29,250 --> 00:14:25,010 red pill junky and people are gonna look 297 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:29,260 and say who's that well he happens to be 298 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:31,970 fellow who blogs about the paranormal 299 00:14:36,970 --> 00:14:34,490 fellow who is very active in our forms 300 00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:36,980 and elsewhere around the internet but 301 00:14:43,090 --> 00:14:41,390 the big question here read or rpj is do 302 00:14:46,569 --> 00:14:43,100 you actually have a day job that you 303 00:14:48,670 --> 00:14:46,579 actually earn a normal living or are you 304 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:48,680 just an online person oh yes I 305 00:14:54,930 --> 00:14:52,130 definitely have a day job I'm a I'm an 306 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:54,940 interior designer I work for a small 307 00:15:00,550 --> 00:14:58,610 architectural company we do many 308 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:00,560 projects forget ranging from you know a 309 00:15:06,370 --> 00:15:02,570 residential with something useful 310 00:15:09,639 --> 00:15:06,380 projects and remodeling to furniture 311 00:15:13,449 --> 00:15:09,649 design I was a interior designer but it 312 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:13,459 was point-of-purchase displays Ino 313 00:15:16,269 --> 00:15:15,890 electronics company we have that in 314 00:15:20,380 --> 00:15:16,279 common 315 00:15:22,150 --> 00:15:20,390 mmm nice yeah yeah like it was a fun job 316 00:15:27,730 --> 00:15:22,160 I got to be creative and made made some 317 00:15:30,610 --> 00:15:27,740 really good money so which I spent after 318 00:15:32,530 --> 00:15:30,620 dead cows there you go later on 319 00:15:36,519 --> 00:15:32,540 didn't matter matter how much I saved it 320 00:15:42,910 --> 00:15:36,529 was gone but what you know I've seen you 321 00:15:45,689 --> 00:15:42,920 stuff online for years now and what's 322 00:15:48,070 --> 00:15:45,699 always struck me is whenever I I see you 323 00:15:51,970 --> 00:15:48,080 you're that hand with the red 324 00:15:54,370 --> 00:15:51,980 in there which is kind of your avatar 325 00:15:56,710 --> 00:15:54,380 I always pay attention because I always 326 00:15:59,079 --> 00:15:56,720 know and you're one of very few people I 327 00:16:00,940 --> 00:15:59,089 can say this about online I always know 328 00:16:02,590 --> 00:16:00,950 that I'm whatever the subject is that 329 00:16:05,500 --> 00:16:02,600 you've responded to that I'm gonna get a 330 00:16:11,579 --> 00:16:05,510 very well-thought-out reasoned response 331 00:16:15,370 --> 00:16:11,589 or comment what exactly do you think is 332 00:16:17,370 --> 00:16:15,380 going on with the paranormal that's 333 00:16:20,500 --> 00:16:17,380 that's kind of cut to the chase what 334 00:16:21,819 --> 00:16:20,510 what sort of background do you have in 335 00:16:25,060 --> 00:16:21,829 the subject you're obviously very 336 00:16:28,509 --> 00:16:25,070 well-read and what do you think's going 337 00:16:31,090 --> 00:16:28,519 on yeah why well as for the background 338 00:16:34,210 --> 00:16:31,100 you know as you said and first of all 339 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:34,220 thank you for the kind comments and well 340 00:16:41,670 --> 00:16:37,730 I'm a person who likes to pay attention 341 00:16:44,980 --> 00:16:41,680 you know who goes to throne side-to-side 342 00:16:47,490 --> 00:16:44,990 reading and absorbing as much as I can 343 00:16:51,100 --> 00:16:47,500 and then I guess all that absorption 344 00:16:54,460 --> 00:16:51,110 eventually gets fermented in my hair you 345 00:16:58,150 --> 00:16:54,470 know and helps me to to never come up 346 00:17:01,240 --> 00:16:58,160 with them my own perspective on things 347 00:17:03,940 --> 00:17:01,250 and as for what's what's going on in the 348 00:17:07,900 --> 00:17:03,950 poem but in the so called paranormal at 349 00:17:10,090 --> 00:17:07,910 turn I particularly loathe you know it's 350 00:17:14,250 --> 00:17:10,100 because it's so loose even you know it 351 00:17:20,020 --> 00:17:14,260 either means something that it's outside 352 00:17:23,199 --> 00:17:20,030 the range of the laws of nature which 353 00:17:25,210 --> 00:17:23,209 time time time and time again every pnom 354 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:25,220 enough that we did we think that it 355 00:17:30,940 --> 00:17:28,490 cannot be explained by nature we and 356 00:17:34,090 --> 00:17:30,950 eventually tend to to do it to 357 00:17:37,360 --> 00:17:34,100 incorporate it into our little tiny 358 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:37,370 model of what the universe is and how it 359 00:17:42,100 --> 00:17:40,490 should behave and and also the other 360 00:17:45,130 --> 00:17:42,110 thing about the paranormal is that it 361 00:17:49,510 --> 00:17:45,140 can also could imply that it's something 362 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:49,520 very outside the quarren called normal 363 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:52,970 range of human experience I'm sure that 364 00:17:58,060 --> 00:17:55,370 for people like you and me who were 365 00:18:00,700 --> 00:17:58,070 deeply invested in the indecent in this 366 00:18:01,230 --> 00:18:00,710 phenomena we could test that if that's 367 00:18:02,910 --> 00:18:01,240 just 368 00:18:05,370 --> 00:18:02,920 not the case you know you go to a 369 00:18:06,900 --> 00:18:05,380 conference or maybe somewhere like the 370 00:18:09,390 --> 00:18:06,910 pardon simple shoe that I have been 371 00:18:11,670 --> 00:18:09,400 lucky to attempt import on both 372 00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:11,680 occasions and once you get acquainted to 373 00:18:16,260 --> 00:18:13,360 a person and get familiar with you and 374 00:18:18,660 --> 00:18:16,270 them and it gets it's comfortable 375 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:18,670 comfortable enough to open up they 376 00:18:25,470 --> 00:18:21,370 started to tell you all these very 377 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:25,480 interesting ideas we may be things that 378 00:18:29,220 --> 00:18:27,250 happen to them personally things that 379 00:18:34,110 --> 00:18:29,230 happen to someone close to them so you 380 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:34,120 get to you easily realize that be 381 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:36,730 so-called paranormal phenomena are our 382 00:18:42,690 --> 00:18:39,490 part a very important and neglected part 383 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:42,700 of the everyday life let's kind of go 384 00:18:49,260 --> 00:18:45,970 back to the beginning here of your focus 385 00:18:50,310 --> 00:18:49,270 about things that are strange things 386 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:50,320 that are unusual 387 00:18:55,770 --> 00:18:53,170 have you had personal experiences in 388 00:18:59,220 --> 00:18:55,780 your life that also helped move you in 389 00:19:01,770 --> 00:18:59,230 this direction nothing overtly dramatic 390 00:19:04,530 --> 00:19:01,780 you know I mean as a child of the 80s 391 00:19:07,890 --> 00:19:04,540 you know someone who was deeply 392 00:19:10,020 --> 00:19:07,900 influenced by all the big blockbuster 393 00:19:12,500 --> 00:19:10,030 movies you know on Steven Spielberg 394 00:19:14,970 --> 00:19:12,510 Close Encounters of the Third Kind ETV 395 00:19:17,130 --> 00:19:14,980 extraterrestrial and all that I always 396 00:19:19,020 --> 00:19:17,140 wanted to have you know that close 397 00:19:19,290 --> 00:19:19,030 encounter experience or something like 398 00:19:24,090 --> 00:19:19,300 that 399 00:19:27,290 --> 00:19:24,100 and UFO sightings maybe I have only had 400 00:19:30,750 --> 00:19:27,300 it twice nothing overtly a spectacular 401 00:19:33,540 --> 00:19:30,760 you know the last one was just when I 402 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:33,550 was a have returned from the paradigm 403 00:19:40,130 --> 00:19:36,610 symposium and it happened lasted just 404 00:19:43,260 --> 00:19:40,140 maybe even in less than a second I saw a 405 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:43,270 small light in the sky I had a very 406 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:47,170 peculiar movement something that could 407 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:49,450 not have been easily explained us an 408 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:51,730 asinine thing or something like that but 409 00:19:55,890 --> 00:19:54,250 well it was just that you know just a 410 00:19:58,110 --> 00:19:55,900 light that I cannot explain you know I'm 411 00:20:01,050 --> 00:19:58,120 not going to jump in and say oh what's a 412 00:20:03,870 --> 00:20:01,060 380 and a behavior beam ship you know 413 00:20:06,090 --> 00:20:03,880 saying hello what are the types of 414 00:20:09,210 --> 00:20:06,100 things I've experienced I've experienced 415 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:09,220 a lucid a lot of lucid dreaming that was 416 00:20:14,649 --> 00:20:13,450 prompted by by my realism and of course 417 00:20:17,019 --> 00:20:14,659 Costanera 418 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:17,029 was the one who put in me the idea of 419 00:20:22,330 --> 00:20:20,330 trying you know who have a lucid 420 00:20:25,810 --> 00:20:22,340 dreaming and I guess you can work 421 00:20:28,869 --> 00:20:25,820 because on several occasions I have 422 00:20:32,409 --> 00:20:28,879 managed to attain that that level of 423 00:20:35,019 --> 00:20:32,419 lucidity also people people who are 424 00:20:36,969 --> 00:20:35,029 interested in these notice that when you 425 00:20:38,109 --> 00:20:36,979 start to pay attention a lot of 426 00:20:40,690 --> 00:20:38,119 synchronicity 427 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:40,700 start to popped into your life but 428 00:20:45,159 --> 00:20:43,129 basically that's that's about it you 429 00:20:50,379 --> 00:20:45,169 know I've never had a chance to have a 430 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:50,389 really close UFO sighting or seeing 431 00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:52,129 something in the woods that I cannot 432 00:20:58,539 --> 00:20:54,320 explain or see in some kind of ghostly 433 00:21:00,820 --> 00:20:58,549 apparition most of my that my experience 434 00:21:04,930 --> 00:21:00,830 has been I guess purely purely 435 00:21:07,479 --> 00:21:04,940 Academical now looking at the personal 436 00:21:10,599 --> 00:21:07,489 experiences or the desire professional 437 00:21:13,769 --> 00:21:10,609 experiences now when I describe my 438 00:21:16,299 --> 00:21:13,779 situation I'll say maybe once or twice 439 00:21:18,729 --> 00:21:16,309 something might have happened like I had 440 00:21:20,669 --> 00:21:18,739 a UFO sighting once but it could have 441 00:21:23,859 --> 00:21:20,679 been anything you know nothing's really 442 00:21:26,919 --> 00:21:23,869 detailed enough to indicate something 443 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:26,929 that was really unusual and one other 444 00:21:31,869 --> 00:21:29,450 time with my first wife we were asleep 445 00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:31,879 and she awakened me to tell me that she 446 00:21:37,570 --> 00:21:35,840 saw a water element I saw some kind of 447 00:21:40,299 --> 00:21:37,580 shadowy thing in the distance but you 448 00:21:42,279 --> 00:21:40,309 know my eyes were unfocused my glasses 449 00:21:45,669 --> 00:21:42,289 weren't on who knows that's what we've 450 00:21:49,180 --> 00:21:45,679 seen regardless that's it I have never 451 00:21:51,249 --> 00:21:49,190 had the desire to see anything more for 452 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:51,259 obvious reasons because you hear so many 453 00:21:55,869 --> 00:21:53,690 of these stories about harm coming to 454 00:21:59,019 --> 00:21:55,879 you either your psyche is completely 455 00:22:00,729 --> 00:21:59,029 upset or we have cases where maybe 456 00:22:04,269 --> 00:22:00,739 people suffer some kind of radiation 457 00:22:07,629 --> 00:22:04,279 effect if they come into proximity of a 458 00:22:10,269 --> 00:22:07,639 UFO we're going to be breaking for a 459 00:22:13,570 --> 00:22:10,279 moment read but the question I would ask 460 00:22:15,940 --> 00:22:13,580 you and then to campano this when we 461 00:22:17,710 --> 00:22:15,950 bring you back you've had a couple of 462 00:22:21,399 --> 00:22:17,720 things happen to you do you have a 463 00:22:26,379 --> 00:22:21,409 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just 591 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:29,409 weeks to complete he's got something 592 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:30,730 there event is a decade and a half 593 00:27:36,390 --> 00:27:34,330 research a lot more red pill junky is 594 00:27:38,580 --> 00:27:36,400 our guests active participate in our 595 00:27:40,830 --> 00:27:38,590 forums an active blogger on the 596 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:40,840 paranormal and the question I asked him 597 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:42,850 before we broke you have any burning 598 00:27:47,850 --> 00:27:45,490 desire or otherwise to have a paranormal 599 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:47,860 encounter red yes sure 600 00:27:53,659 --> 00:27:51,010 I've always have the desire to see a UFO 601 00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:53,669 close but unfortunately it seems that 602 00:28:01,830 --> 00:27:57,370 the phenomenon has actively eluded me 603 00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:01,840 and I remember one time several years 604 00:28:08,130 --> 00:28:05,110 ago with my family took a road trip to a 605 00:28:10,409 --> 00:28:08,140 place called La Scala here in Mexico and 606 00:28:12,450 --> 00:28:10,419 I don't know they asked me if I wanted 607 00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:12,460 to come along I said no I wanted to stay 608 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:14,710 I don't know play video games on 609 00:28:19,230 --> 00:28:16,570 whatever and what they returned they 610 00:28:22,890 --> 00:28:19,240 told me that they saw a UFO there so 611 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:22,900 they saw a weird bright light in the sky 612 00:28:28,860 --> 00:28:25,570 where there was nothing you know what 613 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:28,870 miles are having how in the world it 614 00:28:34,590 --> 00:28:31,570 almost felt like they got them UFO was 615 00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:34,600 you know leaping finger in the sky and 616 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:35,289 say huh 617 00:28:39,390 --> 00:28:36,970 you want you want to see some of these 618 00:28:41,789 --> 00:28:39,400 well you ain't getting anything no it's 619 00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:41,799 up with me I guess it's where you live 620 00:28:47,580 --> 00:28:44,710 and hang out and and if you spend time 621 00:28:50,190 --> 00:28:47,590 out actively looking in the San Luis 622 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:50,200 Valley through the 90s you know I could 623 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:51,850 have four or five sightings in one night 624 00:28:58,049 --> 00:28:55,210 of different events I don't know what it 625 00:28:59,940 --> 00:28:58,059 is but ever since I moved there you know 626 00:29:02,850 --> 00:28:59,950 I have had quite a number of good 627 00:29:06,090 --> 00:29:02,860 sightings including one that just really 628 00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:06,100 was quite startling broad daylight 629 00:29:11,220 --> 00:29:08,799 traveling down highway 69 in North Mill 630 00:29:12,060 --> 00:29:11,230 Valley you know this little 10 12 foot 631 00:29:15,330 --> 00:29:12,070 scoutship 632 00:29:17,820 --> 00:29:15,340 zipping right across about 150 feet away 633 00:29:19,289 --> 00:29:17,830 about 50 feet up and you know it's 634 00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:19,299 impiety I thought it was a model plane 635 00:29:25,349 --> 00:29:23,710 at first that it was a little bit that 636 00:29:28,259 --> 00:29:25,359 was really close and then I realized 637 00:29:32,849 --> 00:29:28,269 that it was probably 50 60 feet away and 638 00:29:33,389 --> 00:29:32,859 and much bigger and from that point on 639 00:29:35,310 --> 00:29:33,399 boy 640 00:29:37,889 --> 00:29:35,320 it's dive had dozens and dozens of 641 00:29:40,590 --> 00:29:37,899 sightings of course it probably helps to 642 00:29:41,999 --> 00:29:40,600 have a network of people that call you 643 00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:42,009 up and say hey it's coming your 644 00:29:45,389 --> 00:29:44,080 direction you know run outside look look 645 00:29:48,749 --> 00:29:45,399 in this direction look in that direction 646 00:29:52,379 --> 00:29:48,759 so having a network of sky watchers is 647 00:29:55,139 --> 00:29:52,389 probably the best way to create you know 648 00:29:57,629 --> 00:29:55,149 some form of phone chain or something 649 00:30:00,690 --> 00:29:57,639 that can alert others when things are 650 00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:00,700 flying around and fortunately I've been 651 00:30:05,879 --> 00:30:03,129 able to get some some videos a few 652 00:30:07,889 --> 00:30:05,889 photographs but it's very very difficult 653 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:07,899 most of times it just happens when you 654 00:30:13,349 --> 00:30:10,570 least expected it it could be startling 655 00:30:15,989 --> 00:30:13,359 and you tend to freeze up and just kind 656 00:30:19,469 --> 00:30:15,999 of fixate on on what it whatever 657 00:30:21,570 --> 00:30:19,479 weirdness it is and then all of a sudden 658 00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:21,580 you're shocked into to action to grab a 659 00:30:26,789 --> 00:30:24,369 camera or attempt to document it which I 660 00:30:29,399 --> 00:30:26,799 find over and over again is people's 661 00:30:31,499 --> 00:30:29,409 reactions you know I was like array 662 00:30:34,649 --> 00:30:31,509 Stanford don't you think that there are 663 00:30:37,649 --> 00:30:34,659 some people that may act a some kind of 664 00:30:39,659 --> 00:30:37,659 magnet for the phenomenon because if I 665 00:30:43,409 --> 00:30:39,669 recall correctly you yourself have a 666 00:30:46,580 --> 00:30:43,419 very startling experience when you were 667 00:30:49,499 --> 00:30:46,590 very young yeah yeah that's true maybe 668 00:30:51,479 --> 00:30:49,509 maybe they somehow marked me or 669 00:30:53,249 --> 00:30:51,489 something I don't know I've had two 670 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:53,259 really good sightings here since I moved 671 00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:54,970 to the Sedona area one was broad 672 00:31:00,539 --> 00:30:56,710 daylight it's like it looked like a 673 00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:00,549 giant 30 maybe 40 foot chicken egg no 674 00:31:05,940 --> 00:31:03,369 white chicken egg flying up oak creek 675 00:31:08,219 --> 00:31:05,950 canyon and there are a bunch of campers 676 00:31:10,529 --> 00:31:08,229 and the hikers rather than in the canyon 677 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:10,539 that also saw it and reported it just so 678 00:31:15,139 --> 00:31:13,210 other than that it's been pretty quiet 679 00:31:17,009 --> 00:31:15,149 around here I don't really count 680 00:31:19,649 --> 00:31:17,019 indistinguishable lights in the sky 681 00:31:21,749 --> 00:31:19,659 anymore really mmm unless they're groups 682 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:21,759 of lights that seem to be flying in 683 00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:24,850 formation or a period of 684 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:27,310 to be a lit-up large craft there's so 685 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:29,650 many you know nocturnal light sightings 686 00:31:34,590 --> 00:31:32,170 around here that are misconstrued their 687 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:34,600 planes putting on their landing lights 688 00:31:40,410 --> 00:31:37,690 or you know the space station going over 689 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:40,420 or you know various satellites but boy 690 00:31:45,090 --> 00:31:42,370 I've seen someone ed Grimsley's footage 691 00:31:46,530 --> 00:31:45,100 of some good night vision he's almost 692 00:31:49,050 --> 00:31:46,540 any night you go out you'll see 693 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:49,060 something unusual flying around that you 694 00:31:53,850 --> 00:31:51,330 can't see with the with the naked eye a 695 00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:53,860 fast question here that you've had so 696 00:31:58,830 --> 00:31:55,840 many of these encounters do you ever 697 00:32:01,350 --> 00:31:58,840 feel Kris that you're being singled out 698 00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:01,360 by them I'm being serious here 699 00:32:05,310 --> 00:32:03,910 no I know you are no I don't I think I 700 00:32:07,380 --> 00:32:05,320 just happened to be in the right place 701 00:32:10,260 --> 00:32:07,390 at the right time and I'm constantly 702 00:32:14,220 --> 00:32:10,270 looking when I go outside you know I 703 00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:14,230 don't smoke inside my house so when I go 704 00:32:16,820 --> 00:32:15,910 out to have a smoke I'm constantly my 705 00:32:19,610 --> 00:32:16,830 heads on a swivel 706 00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:19,620 whenever I moved to a new area I 707 00:32:25,860 --> 00:32:22,720 research and find out where the 708 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:25,870 predominant areas of highest incidents 709 00:32:31,860 --> 00:32:27,490 are and where sightings are predominant 710 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:31,870 so therefore I generally focus in those 711 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:34,650 particular directions or areas i 712 00:32:40,620 --> 00:32:37,650 dovetail my efforts with other 713 00:32:43,290 --> 00:32:40,630 researchers for instance here in sedona 714 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:43,300 area tom dango and in several others who 715 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:44,890 been here for years they kind of have a 716 00:32:49,890 --> 00:32:46,690 sense of where these things are normally 717 00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:49,900 seen and so I get myself as up to speed 718 00:32:55,650 --> 00:32:52,000 as possible but I don't think I've been 719 00:32:56,430 --> 00:32:55,660 singled out I think I'm just really very 720 00:32:59,760 --> 00:32:56,440 observant 721 00:33:01,260 --> 00:32:59,770 I'm always looking and that's you know 722 00:33:04,770 --> 00:33:01,270 people say how come you get to see so 723 00:33:07,530 --> 00:33:04,780 where do you oppose cuz I look most 724 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:07,540 people rarely look above eye-level you 725 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:10,570 know and unless you're actually paying 726 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:13,930 attention and looking and keeping up on 727 00:33:17,790 --> 00:33:15,970 whether there's been sightings reported 728 00:33:20,250 --> 00:33:17,800 in the area and network with people 729 00:33:22,530 --> 00:33:20,260 usually if you do those things you 730 00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:22,540 increase the odds of having a sighting 731 00:33:27,870 --> 00:33:25,360 experience well that creates the 732 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:27,880 impression here that you probably 733 00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:29,530 believe in what's called the publicity 734 00:33:35,850 --> 00:33:32,260 flap when you have a wave of UFO cases 735 00:33:37,350 --> 00:33:35,860 it's not because the UFOs are here in a 736 00:33:39,220 --> 00:33:37,360 greater frequency it's because more 737 00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:39,230 people are look 738 00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:42,529 well the classic example and I think rpj 739 00:33:51,930 --> 00:33:46,880 would agree is the 19 what was it 1991 I 740 00:33:55,060 --> 00:33:51,940 think Mexico City Eclipse yes in July 19 741 00:33:56,919 --> 00:33:55,070 1991 right everybody was out looking at 742 00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:56,929 the eclipse in the daytime and lo and 743 00:34:03,129 --> 00:34:00,880 behold I think at last count it was 8 744 00:34:06,159 --> 00:34:03,139 videotapes were taken of these silver 745 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:06,169 orbs that were seen by people they were 746 00:34:10,930 --> 00:34:09,050 able to triangulate and get actually 747 00:34:12,609 --> 00:34:10,940 some pretty good information from these 748 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:12,619 various videos that we're done 749 00:34:16,810 --> 00:34:15,290 unbeknownst to one another as people 750 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:16,820 were watching the Eclipse I remember 751 00:34:20,859 --> 00:34:19,010 that was a that was a really big news 752 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:20,869 story down there and it actually became 753 00:34:27,609 --> 00:34:23,570 a news story up here yeah I mean it 754 00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:27,619 really began a very very active lap over 755 00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:31,040 here in Mexico the UFOs became a very 756 00:34:36,460 --> 00:34:33,679 very hot topic yeah especially when 757 00:34:41,169 --> 00:34:36,470 Jaime jumped in there yeah I mean I 758 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:41,179 remember there was this talk-show TV 759 00:34:47,770 --> 00:34:44,810 program called Husted Kapena on channel 760 00:34:50,260 --> 00:34:47,780 2 with this guy Nino can own and it was 761 00:34:53,260 --> 00:34:50,270 this night when I'm out Sun and other 762 00:34:59,069 --> 00:34:53,270 people were talking about UFOs the 763 00:35:03,309 --> 00:34:59,079 program started about 8 o'clock p.m. on 764 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:03,319 Friday night and attended sat and the 765 00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:06,890 Saturday make Saturday on 7 a.m. Wow 766 00:35:11,290 --> 00:35:09,440 11 hours they were and the reason they 767 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:11,300 had to cut the program because because 768 00:35:15,970 --> 00:35:14,210 what because the news program was about 769 00:35:20,050 --> 00:35:15,980 to start so they couldn't go in the way 770 00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:20,060 of a channel schedule and yeah back in 771 00:35:25,210 --> 00:35:21,920 those days Heineman sang was you know 772 00:35:27,540 --> 00:35:25,220 the idol of many people you know I must 773 00:35:29,950 --> 00:35:27,550 admit including me you know people were 774 00:35:34,510 --> 00:35:29,960 younger the younger generation were 775 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:34,520 really reacting to his message you know 776 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:36,290 when when the skeptics starting to you 777 00:35:41,710 --> 00:35:39,650 know questioning people in that program 778 00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:41,720 starting to pull him to pull them it was 779 00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:44,000 kind of crazy you know like a Lucha 780 00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:46,640 Libre match or something well I would 781 00:35:54,010 --> 00:35:52,190 say especially early on Jaime's I think 782 00:35:55,930 --> 00:35:54,020 he was pretty much believing anything 783 00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:55,940 that looked strange he would jump on it 784 00:36:01,089 --> 00:35:57,920 and promote it as something high strange 785 00:36:03,970 --> 00:36:01,099 and as a UFO I think he's gotten a 786 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:03,980 little better over the years he's become 787 00:36:07,780 --> 00:36:05,690 more discerning and a little bit more 788 00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:07,790 selective and what he chooses to jump on 789 00:36:12,190 --> 00:36:10,160 and promote but back in the early days 790 00:36:17,609 --> 00:36:12,200 man if it looked weird he was all over 791 00:36:20,829 --> 00:36:17,619 it you know I remember he got fooled by 792 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:20,839 mylar balloons a few times and you know 793 00:36:27,339 --> 00:36:23,210 photographs of birds with their wings 794 00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:27,349 folded in and he wasn't very I don't 795 00:36:32,380 --> 00:36:29,119 think he really had developed a critical 796 00:36:34,690 --> 00:36:32,390 eye until later in the late 90s early 797 00:36:36,940 --> 00:36:34,700 2000s then he started to pull back a 798 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:36,950 little bit we're gonna pull back for a 799 00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:38,930 moment here we'll have more to come with 800 00:36:49,839 --> 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network that's carrying us so that gives 913 00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:46,900 you another option it's available online 914 00:41:51,390 --> 00:41:48,760 there's an app for your iPhone or your 915 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:51,400 Android phone so there yeah there's a 916 00:41:56,070 --> 00:41:53,290 shout out to all our new listeners out 917 00:41:58,590 --> 00:41:56,080 there don't forget to visit the parrot 918 00:42:01,710 --> 00:41:58,600 kasa.com and become a member of our 919 00:42:03,180 --> 00:42:01,720 forum at forum dr. pear cast com where 920 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:03,190 you get to ask questions of our guests 921 00:42:07,710 --> 00:42:06,010 like today's web pill junky and interact 922 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:07,720 with some really smart people we've got 923 00:42:11,310 --> 00:42:09,370 one of the most up to speed 924 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:11,320 knowledgeable online communities I think 925 00:42:16,260 --> 00:42:14,410 in the paranormal in I can't thank all 926 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:16,270 these folks enough for all their great 927 00:42:19,820 --> 00:42:19,210 questions and and keeping the Regina and 928 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:19,830 I really 929 00:42:23,390 --> 00:42:22,530 you know keeping us always thinking I 930 00:42:25,490 --> 00:42:23,400 was on our feet 931 00:42:27,470 --> 00:42:25,500 speaking of which we got quite a few 932 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:27,480 questions for red pill junky he's one of 933 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:29,850 the most popular people in our forums 934 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:31,410 he's always there always there with 935 00:42:35,690 --> 00:42:34,290 great comments and maybe we'll sprinkle 936 00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:35,700 some of those questions through the 937 00:42:39,410 --> 00:42:37,200 episode in fact Chris if you want to 938 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:39,420 start right now and ask a few you're 939 00:42:43,130 --> 00:42:41,610 ready for this red yeah I took full 940 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:43,140 advantage for being a member of the 941 00:42:49,310 --> 00:42:47,010 particle I'm so I read the questions 942 00:42:53,180 --> 00:42:49,320 beforehand okay you cheated no I'm not 943 00:42:55,460 --> 00:42:53,190 oh we let our guests look at the forums 944 00:42:57,770 --> 00:42:55,470 they have that power I mean I do have 945 00:43:02,240 --> 00:42:57,780 the power to stop it but we don't want 946 00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:02,250 to explain that Chris in a recent column 947 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:04,110 you discussed even Greer's media 948 00:43:09,020 --> 00:43:06,090 coverage for the cameras he puts on a 949 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:09,030 mainstream image while offstage he runs 950 00:43:13,070 --> 00:43:09,570 a cult-like 951 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:13,080 UFO organization if we could send you 952 00:43:18,140 --> 00:43:15,450 back in time what would you do to 953 00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:18,150 prevent the rise of Greer and is it too 954 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:22,110 late to do anything about it today yeah 955 00:43:27,220 --> 00:43:23,610 I know who said that 956 00:43:32,570 --> 00:43:27,230 but she was my good friend Kurt Collins 957 00:43:35,330 --> 00:43:32,580 my answer is my dear ear Kurt if I had a 958 00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:35,340 time machine at my disposal do you think 959 00:43:46,010 --> 00:43:38,160 I will waste the trip in Steven Greer 960 00:43:47,810 --> 00:43:46,020 I mean prevented he's rised was if the 961 00:43:50,660 --> 00:43:47,820 aliens had actually landed in the white 962 00:43:58,700 --> 00:43:50,670 house you know came out and said Steven 963 00:44:01,400 --> 00:43:58,710 who know what's talking about well I 964 00:44:05,930 --> 00:44:01,410 tried I met him very early on myself 965 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:05,940 back in 93 and I told him in front of 966 00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:08,370 some really you know super well-to-do 967 00:44:14,900 --> 00:44:12,960 well-connected rich socialites that his 968 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:14,910 message was make way more important than 969 00:44:21,470 --> 00:44:19,010 he was and I think that anybody who's 970 00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:21,480 has a chance to talk to him should 971 00:44:27,590 --> 00:44:24,480 remember that mantra Steven your message 972 00:44:30,410 --> 00:44:27,600 is more important than you are and just 973 00:44:32,660 --> 00:44:30,420 say that over and over lull yourself to 974 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:32,670 sleep with it maybe your ego 975 00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:36,330 we'll come down about 50 sizes maybe if 976 00:44:41,300 --> 00:44:38,880 he had a real sighting of some sort 977 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:41,310 not maybe something he might make up but 978 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:43,530 we had some real events happen to him 979 00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:45,210 maybe he wouldn't be so high and mighty 980 00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:47,910 I mean I think that they're complaining 981 00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:50,520 about the prominent Steven Greer has 982 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:53,520 today in the field you will be akin to 983 00:44:59,960 --> 00:44:57,330 the researchers trying to get back to 984 00:45:03,620 --> 00:44:59,970 the story the beneficial study of 985 00:45:06,140 --> 00:45:03,630 psychedelics if they were lamenting or 986 00:45:09,230 --> 00:45:06,150 regretting how Timothy Leary you know 987 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:09,240 set back the research forty years you 988 00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:13,050 know I mean so do we blame Greer or do 989 00:45:18,170 --> 00:45:14,640 we blame the culture you know the 990 00:45:20,990 --> 00:45:18,180 culture right now is and you know paying 991 00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:21,000 attention on only to if the ones people 992 00:45:27,470 --> 00:45:23,760 who have the most extravagant stories 993 00:45:30,700 --> 00:45:27,480 about UFOs or the paranormal so I think 994 00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:30,710 that career is only partially to blame 995 00:45:36,050 --> 00:45:33,510 right now I think that the mainstream 996 00:45:38,660 --> 00:45:36,060 culture only looks to you're opposed as 997 00:45:40,310 --> 00:45:38,670 a source of entertainment you know so if 998 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:40,320 you want to have the most entertainment 999 00:45:46,430 --> 00:45:43,650 and beautiful story you go within the 1000 00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:46,440 people who have the wackiest ales so and 1001 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:49,200 they only call Steven Greer instead 1002 00:45:54,260 --> 00:45:51,330 instead of calling someone like Lesley 1003 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:54,270 king or someone like I don't know which 1004 00:46:01,160 --> 00:45:57,330 are dull and or people who will provide 1005 00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:01,170 a more sober and a more mature and a 1006 00:46:08,180 --> 00:46:04,110 message so basically it's all about the 1007 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:08,190 cult of personality it is folks so the 1008 00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:10,050 person who is the most extravagant the 1009 00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:12,780 best show person the one that can grab 1010 00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:14,400 the ratings that's what it's all about 1011 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:16,110 it's not about the research it's not 1012 00:46:20,090 --> 00:46:17,970 about figuring out with we're being 1013 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:20,100 visited by aliens or if there's some 1014 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:22,170 other thing going on that doesn't matter 1015 00:46:27,740 --> 00:46:24,570 it's all for the show that's what we are 1016 00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:27,750 the TV is unfortunately yeah I mean 1017 00:46:32,990 --> 00:46:30,240 court courts and question immediately 1018 00:46:35,330 --> 00:46:33,000 reminded me of that scene in the movie 1019 00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:35,340 Fellowship of the Ring you know when 1020 00:46:40,820 --> 00:46:36,960 proton guns out without talking I'm 1021 00:46:42,650 --> 00:46:40,830 probably regretting how Bilbo didn't 1022 00:46:45,650 --> 00:46:42,660 kill Gollum you know think he had a 1023 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:45,660 chance and you know maybe it may 1024 00:46:51,049 --> 00:46:47,490 Stephen grills like Gollum you know he 1025 00:46:54,529 --> 00:46:51,059 still has some we're part in this tale 1026 00:46:56,890 --> 00:46:54,539 that we we haven't just figured out yet 1027 00:46:59,920 --> 00:46:56,900 you know he's kind of a thin person 1028 00:47:03,230 --> 00:46:59,930 Steven Greer does he resemble another 1029 00:47:05,539 --> 00:47:03,240 guy just think about it take a look at 1030 00:47:09,890 --> 00:47:05,549 Steven Greer have you seen them at the 1031 00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:09,900 same time in the same place I'm starting 1032 00:47:18,109 --> 00:47:14,609 our web rumour here uh I don't know not 1033 00:47:20,930 --> 00:47:18,119 to mention it I don't think so right 1034 00:47:22,730 --> 00:47:20,940 think about it folks well well we're 1035 00:47:24,980 --> 00:47:22,740 thinking about that let me get on back 1036 00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:24,990 to Mexico City and then I have some 1037 00:47:30,380 --> 00:47:27,359 questions for you okay sir name the work 1038 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:30,390 of Carlos Castaneda but first this one 1039 00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:33,690 comes from nameless who has been a forum 1040 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:36,720 poster for a couple of years now and he 1041 00:47:42,140 --> 00:47:39,210 asks in regards to the Mexico City UFO 1042 00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:42,150 waves of the 90s could such displays 1043 00:47:46,579 --> 00:47:44,640 have occurred anywhere else or is this 1044 00:47:49,150 --> 00:47:46,589 intrinsically linked to the nature of 1045 00:47:53,150 --> 00:47:49,160 Mexican culture with its belief systems 1046 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:53,160 methodology psychological makeup is kind 1047 00:47:56,900 --> 00:47:55,410 of follow-up question to that is does 1048 00:47:59,509 --> 00:47:56,910 this link in with the paranormal 1049 00:48:01,490 --> 00:47:59,519 phenomena have a quantum observer effect 1050 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:01,500 with the experience or a collective 1051 00:48:06,499 --> 00:48:03,690 experience there's being an unconscious 1052 00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:06,509 co-creator or protagonist so I think 1053 00:48:09,380 --> 00:48:07,980 what he's saying is are these things 1054 00:48:11,930 --> 00:48:09,390 really happening or is it the 1055 00:48:15,499 --> 00:48:11,940 expectations of the people in the 1056 00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:15,509 culture of manifesting these examples of 1057 00:48:20,420 --> 00:48:18,000 waves of UFOs or other types of 1058 00:48:23,690 --> 00:48:20,430 paranormal phenomena both are excellent 1059 00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:23,700 questions yep getting back to the wave 1060 00:48:29,029 --> 00:48:25,680 in the 90s you know I think that 1061 00:48:32,380 --> 00:48:29,039 definitely there was be an effect of 1062 00:48:35,269 --> 00:48:32,390 Mexico being way more open to 1063 00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:35,279 possibility of the UFO phenomenon thanks 1064 00:48:40,279 --> 00:48:38,250 to the work of and people liked forget 1065 00:48:42,529 --> 00:48:40,289 about Heineman son before behind me 1066 00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:42,539 there was a bit of a recent accrues who 1067 00:48:48,130 --> 00:48:44,880 is widely regarded as the father of 1068 00:48:51,529 --> 00:48:48,140 Mexican apology the guy was a friend of 1069 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:51,539 dr. J Allen Hynek and for many years he 1070 00:48:54,980 --> 00:48:54,450 had a TV program called un mundo NOS 1071 00:48:57,499 --> 00:48:54,990 Mahela 1072 00:48:59,059 --> 00:48:57,509 a world is watching us you know back in 1073 00:49:00,650 --> 00:48:59,069 the days when and 1074 00:49:03,079 --> 00:49:00,660 phenomena was really killed in the night 1075 00:49:04,279 --> 00:49:03,089 in the United States in Mexico there was 1076 00:49:05,630 --> 00:49:04,289 a mainstream program 1077 00:49:08,809 --> 00:49:05,640 you're not talking on discussing the 1078 00:49:11,170 --> 00:49:08,819 phenomenon so there was that and maybe I 1079 00:49:14,299 --> 00:49:11,180 think by looking back in those days that 1080 00:49:17,420 --> 00:49:14,309 the early night it was a very kind of 1081 00:49:20,029 --> 00:49:17,430 turbulent times in mexican society 1082 00:49:23,269 --> 00:49:20,039 mexican culture maybe that also had 1083 00:49:26,809 --> 00:49:23,279 something to do I often wonder if there 1084 00:49:30,949 --> 00:49:26,819 is a an increase in UFO sightings in 1085 00:49:33,890 --> 00:49:30,959 places when where there are a social 1086 00:49:36,439 --> 00:49:33,900 social some kind of social turbulence 1087 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:36,449 you know and maybe there I don't think 1088 00:49:40,789 --> 00:49:38,249 of the chicken and the egg question you 1089 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:40,799 know does the soul shelter Belen somehow 1090 00:49:46,999 --> 00:49:43,890 attract the phenomenon or does the 1091 00:49:50,359 --> 00:49:47,009 social unrest you know somehow manage a 1092 00:49:52,759 --> 00:49:50,369 forces the people to look up into the 1093 00:49:56,059 --> 00:49:52,769 sky more often I don't know yeah I've 1094 00:50:00,410 --> 00:49:56,069 often noticed that these waves tend to 1095 00:50:02,089 --> 00:50:00,420 happen at the end of conflicts like for 1096 00:50:06,859 --> 00:50:02,099 instance this the seventy-three wave 1097 00:50:09,739 --> 00:50:06,869 began as we were leaving Vietnam mm-hmm 1098 00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:09,749 and and at the startup phase where we're 1099 00:50:14,509 --> 00:50:12,089 really starting to ratchet up you know 1100 00:50:18,979 --> 00:50:14,519 military and aggressive human behavior 1101 00:50:21,799 --> 00:50:18,989 the waves of 66 67 for instance going 1102 00:50:24,319 --> 00:50:21,809 back to the waves of 50 51 there seems 1103 00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:24,329 to be a tie-in with Chiefs coming back 1104 00:50:31,219 --> 00:50:28,319 from Korea the sort of the ending of 1105 00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:31,229 conflict or the the conflicts starting 1106 00:50:37,939 --> 00:50:35,359 to even out and but I think changes 1107 00:50:41,959 --> 00:50:37,949 especially involving aggressive human 1108 00:50:44,959 --> 00:50:41,969 behavior have do tend to spark flaps of 1109 00:50:47,959 --> 00:50:44,969 UFO activity or appear statistically 1110 00:50:49,699 --> 00:50:47,969 that that happens and it's the same with 1111 00:50:53,089 --> 00:50:49,709 the cattle mutilation phenomenon I 1112 00:50:56,900 --> 00:50:53,099 actually in my new book I go into you 1113 00:50:59,870 --> 00:50:56,910 know some pretty interesting areas about 1114 00:51:03,109 --> 00:50:59,880 looking at how certain memes within the 1115 00:51:04,999 --> 00:51:03,119 culture gets started inadvertently or by 1116 00:51:07,999 --> 00:51:05,009 design in some cases they're actually 1117 00:51:10,189 --> 00:51:08,009 you know interjected on purpose into the 1118 00:51:13,009 --> 00:51:10,199 culture and again you do see a 1119 00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:13,019 correlation with with aggressive 1120 00:51:16,999 --> 00:51:15,599 human behavior so I think that's 1121 00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:17,009 something for our listeners to really 1122 00:51:22,999 --> 00:51:20,880 maybe dig into a little bit more and do 1123 00:51:24,649 --> 00:51:23,009 a little research in those areas we're 1124 00:51:27,469 --> 00:51:24,659 going to dig into this 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00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:28,530 of our listeners have asked questions 1195 00:54:32,660 --> 00:54:29,850 and we'll get through those and some of 1196 00:54:34,820 --> 00:54:32,670 our own questions as we continue so rpj 1197 00:54:37,070 --> 00:54:34,830 before we go on any response to what 1198 00:54:40,250 --> 00:54:37,080 chris said in the previous segment yeah 1199 00:54:43,010 --> 00:54:40,260 I mean looking back on the the waves of 1200 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:43,020 1973 you know that and I also take pride 1201 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:45,210 on the fact that I was born in October 1202 00:54:53,390 --> 00:54:49,050 of 1973 during one of those beautiful 1203 00:54:55,730 --> 00:54:53,400 waves okay so you're just a kid yeah I'm 1204 00:54:58,130 --> 00:54:55,740 just I'm still wet we can between the 1205 00:55:02,330 --> 00:54:58,140 years and other places but we another 1206 00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:02,340 question but getting back to the other 1207 00:55:07,580 --> 00:55:06,000 part of the nameless question about the 1208 00:55:09,260 --> 00:55:07,590 co-creation of the phenomena I'm totally 1209 00:55:11,540 --> 00:55:09,270 in favor of it you know I think what 1210 00:55:15,110 --> 00:55:11,550 like Greg Bishop and other people have 1211 00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:15,120 suggested we are no mere spectators you 1212 00:55:21,980 --> 00:55:18,720 know I mean maybe when we see something 1213 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:21,990 in the sky or something that we can't 1214 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:24,450 interpret and that we haven't had a 1215 00:55:31,730 --> 00:55:28,170 previous experience for it our minds is 1216 00:55:35,150 --> 00:55:31,740 trying to put it into a into a frame of 1217 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:35,160 reference that we can grasp that made 1218 00:55:41,180 --> 00:55:37,410 sense and there's definitely some sort 1219 00:55:44,510 --> 00:55:41,190 of reflective cultural aspect at least I 1220 00:55:47,180 --> 00:55:44,520 believe yeah which is akin to the valet 1221 00:55:49,790 --> 00:55:47,190 control system the the cultural 1222 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:49,800 thermostat idea of heating the culture 1223 00:55:52,700 --> 00:55:51,330 up when it needs to be heated up and 1224 00:55:55,310 --> 00:55:52,710 cooling it down when it needs to be 1225 00:55:58,610 --> 00:55:55,320 cooled down that's always struck me as 1226 00:56:01,340 --> 00:55:58,620 being a very very astute observation and 1227 00:56:03,740 --> 00:56:01,350 it rings true for me but do you think 1228 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:03,750 that this is a way to get humans to 1229 00:56:07,740 --> 00:56:06,690 evolve nameless it has a third question 1230 00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:07,750 here and 1231 00:56:12,060 --> 00:56:09,250 he's wondering if this is a way to 1232 00:56:14,460 --> 00:56:12,070 kick-start change within the culture and 1233 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:14,470 to break conformity of will in the 1234 00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:16,930 narrow view of a paradigm where do you 1235 00:56:21,390 --> 00:56:18,880 see the shifting consciousness of going 1236 00:56:23,339 --> 00:56:21,400 or are we relegated into the realm of 1237 00:56:25,530 --> 00:56:23,349 the trickster where all bets are off and 1238 00:56:27,180 --> 00:56:25,540 anything could happen or are we seeing a 1239 00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:27,190 real trend going into a particular 1240 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:30,730 direction I do think that the that the 1241 00:56:36,930 --> 00:56:34,090 phenomenon is somehow involved in the 1242 00:56:39,630 --> 00:56:36,940 evolution of human culture you know UFOs 1243 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:39,640 are in a way I see them as agents of 1244 00:56:43,470 --> 00:56:40,690 instability 1245 00:56:45,690 --> 00:56:43,480 you know they undermined the power and 1246 00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:45,700 the legitimacy of the status quo you 1247 00:56:51,540 --> 00:56:48,240 know maybe that's why I'm the people 1248 00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:51,550 Outsiders cultural Outsiders are they 1249 00:56:55,290 --> 00:56:53,680 are the one most fascinated by them but 1250 00:57:00,480 --> 00:56:55,300 people in the mainstream you know people 1251 00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:00,490 be elite they try to reject to tour the 1252 00:57:05,609 --> 00:57:03,609 Thunderhead away and as for her where 1253 00:57:09,060 --> 00:57:05,619 are we going you know the thing I would 1254 00:57:11,730 --> 00:57:09,070 like to see is shipped away from our 1255 00:57:16,530 --> 00:57:11,740 current and materialistic paradigm 1256 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:16,540 reason rejection of anything that cannot 1257 00:57:23,370 --> 00:57:19,690 be addressed or explained by our current 1258 00:57:26,220 --> 00:57:23,380 and scientific methodology that the idea 1259 00:57:28,829 --> 00:57:26,230 the insistence that human consciousness 1260 00:57:31,170 --> 00:57:28,839 it's nothing but the mere by-product of 1261 00:57:34,250 --> 00:57:31,180 the firing of our neurons inside our 1262 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:34,260 brains you know if we could start to to 1263 00:57:42,030 --> 00:57:38,410 prove that human consciousness is 1264 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:42,040 non-local by nature and that maybe will 1265 00:57:48,140 --> 00:57:44,170 be even more important more 1266 00:57:52,050 --> 00:57:48,150 groundbreaking that the you know the 1267 00:57:54,660 --> 00:57:52,060 classical at we should be UFOs landing 1268 00:57:56,609 --> 00:57:54,670 on the White House lawn yeah you know 1269 00:57:58,920 --> 00:57:56,619 what I hear when I'm listening to these 1270 00:58:02,190 --> 00:57:58,930 commentaries that we are what they call 1271 00:58:04,710 --> 00:58:02,200 these thin clients the human brain a 1272 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:04,720 thin client being like a computer and 1273 00:58:09,540 --> 00:58:07,690 taps into a larger network and we're all 1274 00:58:12,030 --> 00:58:09,550 tapping into the same network 1275 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:12,040 you know we're using cloud-based systems 1276 00:58:17,310 --> 00:58:15,130 now of course we're using that in the 1277 00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:17,320 technology world where a lot of things 1278 00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:18,910 are happening in the cloud which is of 1279 00:58:24,180 --> 00:58:21,280 course a network of servers 1280 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:24,190 our computers are their smartphones or 1281 00:58:28,650 --> 00:58:26,770 your tablet's tap into so is that the 1282 00:58:32,070 --> 00:58:28,660 human mind that we're all tapping into 1283 00:58:34,410 --> 00:58:32,080 this central repository of information 1284 00:58:36,900 --> 00:58:34,420 or is it all part of a shared network 1285 00:58:39,060 --> 00:58:36,910 where we each play a part of it like you 1286 00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:39,070 know these bit torrents where everybody 1287 00:58:42,750 --> 00:58:40,720 is part of the network when you download 1288 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:42,760 the illegal software our music that's 1289 00:58:47,900 --> 00:58:45,850 the kind of things that I'm currently 1290 00:58:51,390 --> 00:58:47,910 pondering upon you know whether our 1291 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:51,400 human brain such as complex you know in 1292 00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:55,330 order to tap in into what and Eastern 1293 00:58:59,820 --> 00:58:57,610 mystics will care who called a net of 1294 00:59:06,030 --> 00:58:59,830 Indra or the sea of consciousness right 1295 00:59:11,850 --> 00:59:06,040 so our brains are just like notes hubs 1296 00:59:14,790 --> 00:59:11,860 of consciousness so maybe the idea is 1297 00:59:17,630 --> 00:59:14,800 here to try to entertain the possibility 1298 00:59:22,610 --> 00:59:17,640 that the main building blocks of reality 1299 00:59:24,930 --> 00:59:22,620 are not energy and time space like 1300 00:59:27,390 --> 00:59:24,940 material scientists will have us believe 1301 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:27,400 but rather that consciousness or 1302 00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:29,250 information are the base of everything 1303 00:59:35,210 --> 00:59:32,110 that is something that shocks the lane 1304 00:59:37,620 --> 00:59:35,220 started to propose in his books 1305 00:59:39,420 --> 00:59:37,630 messengers of deception that really had 1306 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:39,430 a huge in kuntum out in my way of 1307 00:59:44,510 --> 00:59:42,010 thinking that's when I first started to 1308 00:59:46,740 --> 00:59:44,520 entertain the idea that we need you know 1309 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:46,750 associative universe rather than a 1310 00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:49,090 causative one in a causative universe 1311 00:59:54,090 --> 00:59:51,760 because must always precede the effect 1312 00:59:57,090 --> 00:59:54,100 during an associative universe you know 1313 00:59:59,850 --> 00:59:57,100 it's something like like the internet 1314 01:00:02,610 --> 00:59:59,860 where we're all consonants are tapping 1315 01:00:05,490 --> 01:00:02,620 into all these hyperlinks and you can 1316 01:00:08,460 --> 01:00:05,500 move from place to place irregardless of 1317 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:08,470 time in space I'm such a universe things 1318 01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:11,050 like remote viewing and precognition and 1319 01:00:14,990 --> 01:00:12,910 collectively they don't break to those 1320 01:00:17,790 --> 01:00:15,000 physics they obey the laws of physics 1321 01:00:20,010 --> 01:00:17,800 yeah and you're describing something 1322 01:00:24,810 --> 01:00:20,020 that almost sounds holographic in nature 1323 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:24,820 that implicit order is contained in in 1324 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:27,250 all aspects of it you know you have a 1325 01:00:33,660 --> 01:00:31,810 full a full image that's contained 1326 01:00:34,890 --> 01:00:33,670 within the parts of the image and that 1327 01:00:38,010 --> 01:00:34,900 brings in the 1328 01:00:40,819 --> 01:00:38,020 possibility that each each individual 1329 01:00:43,559 --> 01:00:40,829 human consciousness may be like a 1330 01:00:45,569 --> 01:00:43,569 synapse in a giant brain and then the 1331 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:45,579 collective unconscious is the actual 1332 01:00:51,089 --> 01:00:47,410 neural pathways that connect all this 1333 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:51,099 stuff together and it all operates with 1334 01:00:56,940 --> 01:00:53,650 a basic set of symbols or archetypes 1335 01:00:59,460 --> 01:00:56,950 which the work of call Youm of course 1336 01:01:01,920 --> 01:00:59,470 this has really flavored mine my 1337 01:01:05,730 --> 01:01:01,930 thinking for many years in when you put 1338 01:01:08,970 --> 01:01:05,740 those two things together some some 1339 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:08,980 people might be a little bigger the 1340 01:01:14,309 --> 01:01:11,170 synapse sitting at it more of a crucial 1341 01:01:17,519 --> 01:01:14,319 Junction within the the system it may be 1342 01:01:22,019 --> 01:01:17,529 firing off signals and receiving signals 1343 01:01:25,049 --> 01:01:22,029 more so than other synapses and so maybe 1344 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:25,059 this special destiny people are just 1345 01:01:32,099 --> 01:01:27,490 sitting right at the right intersection 1346 01:01:35,069 --> 01:01:32,109 of this hypothetical synaptic network 1347 01:01:37,740 --> 01:01:35,079 but but it would make sense that there 1348 01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:37,750 is interconnectedness and then on some 1349 01:01:43,980 --> 01:01:40,960 level we are co-creating this reality 1350 01:01:46,349 --> 01:01:43,990 and hence your red pill junky monitor 1351 01:01:47,940 --> 01:01:46,359 you know moniker where do you want to go 1352 01:01:50,460 --> 01:01:47,950 back to the you know take the blue pill 1353 01:01:52,109 --> 01:01:50,470 and you want to go back to sleep and do 1354 01:01:54,329 --> 01:01:52,119 your you know what you think is your 1355 01:01:56,460 --> 01:01:54,339 everyday mundane reality or do you want 1356 01:01:58,740 --> 01:01:56,470 to do you want to see what's really 1357 01:02:01,140 --> 01:01:58,750 going on and that's why I've always 1358 01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:01,150 loved that particular avatar that you 1359 01:02:05,519 --> 01:02:04,089 have and it was very striking to me when 1360 01:02:09,180 --> 01:02:05,529 I first started reading your your 1361 01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:09,190 commentaries on the net well so what do 1362 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:10,510 you think about this idea of this 1363 01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:13,450 holographic sort of systematic network 1364 01:02:21,569 --> 01:02:17,680 of of connected holograms all firing off 1365 01:02:25,079 --> 01:02:21,579 one another and sharing on some you know 1366 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:25,089 deep of collective unconscious way yeah 1367 01:02:31,950 --> 01:02:28,650 I think it's a it's a very suggestive 1368 01:02:34,109 --> 01:02:31,960 possibility in the last paradigm Singh 1369 01:02:36,690 --> 01:02:34,119 position I had the luxury and the 1370 01:02:40,349 --> 01:02:36,700 pleasure lots in spending to all hours 1371 01:02:43,260 --> 01:02:40,359 with Thomas Bosco who tried to explain 1372 01:02:45,990 --> 01:02:43,270 to me his idea of this super geometry 1373 01:02:48,690 --> 01:02:46,000 you know like peace and higher order of 1374 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:48,700 reality in which our University 1375 01:02:54,180 --> 01:02:51,130 a subset and I can't claim to say that I 1376 01:02:56,359 --> 01:02:54,190 fully understood what he said you know 1377 01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:56,369 by the end of it my brain was sweating I 1378 01:03:00,510 --> 01:02:57,970 felt like dizzy 1379 01:03:04,230 --> 01:03:00,520 but I think we are coming back to all 1380 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:04,240 this nasty very Gnostic very play ivy 1381 01:03:10,170 --> 01:03:07,450 ask hard hearken back to the PVH of 1382 01:03:13,980 --> 01:03:10,180 Plato you know the kidney the cave and 1383 01:03:16,190 --> 01:03:13,990 we in which we are on what we perceive 1384 01:03:18,270 --> 01:03:16,200 as reality are nearly shadows you know 1385 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:18,280 reflecting on the walls of the cave and 1386 01:03:22,890 --> 01:03:20,410 wouldn't it be interesting if we can 1387 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:22,900 collectively change that reality to 1388 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:24,970 something maybe a little bit better 1389 01:03:29,490 --> 01:03:26,770 what's getting to more of that our next 1390 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:29,500 segment red pill junky is joining us 1391 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:32,290 you're on with Jeanne and Chris of 1392 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:34,570 course Chris new book stalking of the 1393 01:03:39,900 --> 01:03:35,770 herd will be out shortly 1394 01:03:48,369 --> 01:03:39,910 but meantime you're in the Barrett cast 1395 01:03:50,869 --> 01:03:48,379 [Music] 1396 01:03:52,429 --> 01:03:50,879 first game attack of the rock codes and 1397 01:03:54,289 --> 01:03:52,439 it was a critically acclaimed success 1398 01:03:55,819 --> 01:03:54,299 and now there is the coming of the 1399 01:03:58,339 --> 01:03:55,829 protectors a former military 1400 01:04:00,559 --> 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history and if we could just try to 1511 01:08:46,849 --> 01:08:43,460 come up with a better a better idea 1512 01:08:48,979 --> 01:08:46,859 where we are where we want to go maybe 1513 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:48,989 we could make that a reality that's why 1514 01:08:57,859 --> 01:08:52,170 I I am such a big fan of science fiction 1515 01:09:00,769 --> 01:08:57,869 because to me it it's like a window in 1516 01:09:04,220 --> 01:09:00,779 which we could we can glimpse the kind 1517 01:09:06,079 --> 01:09:04,230 of future that we could hope for you 1518 01:09:11,089 --> 01:09:06,089 know that like in the Star Trek universe 1519 01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:11,099 we see humanity has finally a wrong 1520 01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:13,409 beyond our current adolescence is 1521 01:09:18,289 --> 01:09:16,409 Wayne's way it's becoming a galactic 1522 01:09:22,430 --> 01:09:18,299 civilization you know it's it's a 1523 01:09:26,030 --> 01:09:22,440 message of alternative of how there can 1524 01:09:29,539 --> 01:09:26,040 be a way to move forward and maybe if we 1525 01:09:32,740 --> 01:09:29,549 really that's one maybe they were when 1526 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:32,750 engineers are inspired but such artistic 1527 01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:35,250 representations they try to manifest 1528 01:09:41,979 --> 01:09:39,449 that that's an imaginary world into our 1529 01:09:45,919 --> 01:09:41,989 reality so now that's why we now we have 1530 01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:45,929 technologies like smartphones our video 1531 01:09:51,379 --> 01:09:48,000 conferences and now there are people who 1532 01:09:54,530 --> 01:09:51,389 are trying to to find a way to create an 1533 01:09:57,129 --> 01:09:54,540 actual warp drive and of course they're 1534 01:10:00,379 --> 01:09:57,139 even trying to create some kind of 1535 01:10:01,310 --> 01:10:00,389 teleportation system no beam me up 1536 01:10:03,850 --> 01:10:01,320 Scotty 1537 01:10:06,649 --> 01:10:03,860 that could happen of then if you go back 1538 01:10:09,530 --> 01:10:06,659 to Star Trek next generation in the 1539 01:10:16,790 --> 01:10:09,540 1980s they were using tablets like 1540 01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:16,800 the iPad yes and there was also the the 1541 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:19,489 first version of that program when the 1542 01:10:24,950 --> 01:10:22,050 American audience saw the first 1543 01:10:26,900 --> 01:10:24,960 interracial Creek kiss between Captain 1544 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:26,910 Kirk and Bakura you know back in those a 1545 01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:29,690 winters were still this separation 1546 01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:33,600 between the African Americans and the 1547 01:10:39,770 --> 01:10:36,210 whites and also that was also a message 1548 01:10:41,660 --> 01:10:39,780 of hope well you know for example the 1549 01:10:42,440 --> 01:10:41,670 woman who played who her Nichelle 1550 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:42,450 Nichols 1551 01:10:48,710 --> 01:10:44,610 she wanted the quit after the first year 1552 01:10:52,220 --> 01:10:48,720 and she was urged upon by civil rights 1553 01:10:55,550 --> 01:10:52,230 leaders to keep at that role because she 1554 01:10:58,310 --> 01:10:55,560 was a role model for women for black 1555 01:11:00,530 --> 01:10:58,320 people in general and that's why she 1556 01:11:04,430 --> 01:11:00,540 kept it of course in the modern Star 1557 01:11:06,530 --> 01:11:04,440 Trek we have a hora who's involved in a 1558 01:11:10,970 --> 01:11:06,540 romantic relationship not just with a 1559 01:11:14,750 --> 01:11:10,980 white person but a Vulcan taking it one 1560 01:11:17,090 --> 01:11:14,760 further stage yeah problem is that right 1561 01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:17,100 now and I don't know if you have noticed 1562 01:11:24,050 --> 01:11:20,130 that most of the current sci-fi it's 1563 01:11:26,900 --> 01:11:24,060 kind of an this topic in its nature you 1564 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:26,910 know there where it's only about mostly 1565 01:11:32,780 --> 01:11:30,570 about worst cases scenarios like in the 1566 01:11:34,940 --> 01:11:32,790 movie Elysium which see you know the 1% 1567 01:11:37,270 --> 01:11:34,950 finally leaving living off the planet 1568 01:11:40,130 --> 01:11:37,280 and living in this by Paradise 1569 01:11:43,390 --> 01:11:40,140 technological we're paralyzed this and 1570 01:11:45,910 --> 01:11:43,400 it looks luxurious Space Station why 1571 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:45,920 mean meanwhile the rest of the 1572 01:11:49,910 --> 01:11:48,090 population of the planet is it's 1573 01:11:52,490 --> 01:11:49,920 starving to death and they're living in 1574 01:11:54,710 --> 01:11:52,500 that like the whole planet has become 1575 01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:54,720 one massive shantytown well you look at 1576 01:11:59,330 --> 01:11:56,610 the movie Escape from New York escape 1577 01:12:03,050 --> 01:11:59,340 from LA you look for example at the Star 1578 01:12:05,540 --> 01:12:03,060 Trek first contact where the world has 1579 01:12:07,550 --> 01:12:05,550 pretty much fallen apart and that's when 1580 01:12:10,190 --> 01:12:07,560 they discover a warp drive and they have 1581 01:12:13,550 --> 01:12:10,200 the first contact with the Vulcans you 1582 01:12:16,220 --> 01:12:13,560 look at other TV series defiance for 1583 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:16,230 example talking about the same kind of 1584 01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:18,810 thing civilization falling apart and 1585 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:22,080 these are the remnants revolution same 1586 01:12:24,770 --> 01:12:23,250 deal the 1587 01:12:27,260 --> 01:12:24,780 invent something that kills the 1588 01:12:30,140 --> 01:12:27,270 electricity around the world and we're 1589 01:12:32,180 --> 01:12:30,150 back in the 18th century yeah there's a 1590 01:12:35,210 --> 01:12:32,190 lot of that you know like the currents 1591 01:12:38,180 --> 01:12:35,220 maybe that's also why so many people are 1592 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:38,190 fascinated with ancient civilizations 1593 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:42,210 and now that the ancient aliens theory 1594 01:12:49,100 --> 01:12:46,850 it's so popular also the program on h2 1595 01:12:52,010 --> 01:12:49,110 mainly because of the idea that perhaps 1596 01:12:54,530 --> 01:12:52,020 there were civilizations in antiquity 1597 01:12:57,140 --> 01:12:54,540 that which a very high level of 1598 01:12:59,300 --> 01:12:57,150 sophistication and somehow they messed 1599 01:13:02,390 --> 01:12:59,310 up you know something happens some 1600 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:02,400 catastrophe maybe maybe self cost maybe 1601 01:13:10,460 --> 01:13:05,610 they had some kind of war or something 1602 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:10,470 and then they destroyed what they have 1603 01:13:15,050 --> 01:13:13,050 managed to build and we had to start all 1604 01:13:17,900 --> 01:13:15,060 over again maybe there's these nests and 1605 01:13:20,690 --> 01:13:17,910 fear that we are on the brink of blowing 1606 01:13:23,390 --> 01:13:20,700 everything up so our descendants will 1607 01:13:26,750 --> 01:13:23,400 have to return to the Stone Age and pick 1608 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:26,760 up the pieces well the problem with it 1609 01:13:30,500 --> 01:13:28,530 that is could it become a 1610 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:30,510 self-fulfilling prophecy that if we 1611 01:13:35,210 --> 01:13:32,970 expect the world to fall apart it will 1612 01:13:37,490 --> 01:13:35,220 fall apart and we will have those pieces 1613 01:13:39,260 --> 01:13:37,500 to pick up and that's what generates all 1614 01:13:43,490 --> 01:13:39,270 this fiction all over the place the same 1615 01:13:45,770 --> 01:13:43,500 story that is you have the industrialist 1616 01:13:49,580 --> 01:13:45,780 the 1% taking over or just everything 1617 01:13:53,390 --> 01:13:49,590 falling apart there's no 1% part of the 1618 01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:53,400 99% we're all poor we're all scrounging 1619 01:13:58,580 --> 01:13:55,770 out there to make a living yes perhaps 1620 01:14:00,380 --> 01:13:58,590 perhaps sooner there seems something of 1621 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:00,390 there seems to be something about that 1622 01:14:05,930 --> 01:14:03,690 wish you know modern Western culture you 1623 01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:05,940 know the idea that's all something I 1624 01:14:11,740 --> 01:14:09,090 think that's what drove much of my being 1625 01:14:14,900 --> 01:14:11,750 the tools of peace and that the 2012 1626 01:14:17,900 --> 01:14:14,910 idea at the end of the world and many 1627 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:17,910 people maybe saw that as an escape you 1628 01:14:22,940 --> 01:14:20,010 know and say oh great you know the world 1629 01:14:27,140 --> 01:14:22,950 Lily over and now I won't have to be 1630 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:27,150 stuck on this dead-end job with paying 1631 01:14:30,530 --> 01:14:29,370 my mortgage chance or something right 1632 01:14:32,690 --> 01:14:30,540 don't have to worry about the credit 1633 01:14:35,630 --> 01:14:32,700 bureau there will be no credit bureau 1634 01:14:37,109 --> 01:14:35,640 your creditors will not call you until 8 1635 01:14:39,839 --> 01:14:37,119 p.m. every evening 1636 01:14:42,149 --> 01:14:39,849 saying where's my money not gonna happen 1637 01:14:45,209 --> 01:14:42,159 mm-hmm but maybe then we have to create 1638 01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:45,219 a new vision of where we want to know 1639 01:14:50,700 --> 01:14:47,650 that we yes there's going to be trouble 1640 01:14:53,939 --> 01:14:50,710 but the the trouble can also be a source 1641 01:14:56,850 --> 01:14:53,949 of opportunity we were smart enough to 1642 01:15:00,209 --> 01:14:56,860 take it this disparity that you keep 1643 01:15:03,450 --> 01:15:00,219 hearing about the 99% versus the 1% does 1644 01:15:06,270 --> 01:15:03,460 suggest to me that the possibility of 1645 01:15:08,220 --> 01:15:06,280 there being as Richard Dolan and Joseph 1646 01:15:10,620 --> 01:15:08,230 Ferrell if have dubbed it a breakaway 1647 01:15:13,379 --> 01:15:10,630 civilization I think is more evident and 1648 01:15:17,430 --> 01:15:13,389 in its it's more likely that we have a 1649 01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:17,440 certain trillionaire esque game going on 1650 01:15:22,649 --> 01:15:19,840 of developing technology for the elite 1651 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:22,659 breakaway civilization and allowing 1652 01:15:27,270 --> 01:15:24,010 everybody else just the muddle along 1653 01:15:30,810 --> 01:15:27,280 with with whatever they can get to 1654 01:15:34,410 --> 01:15:30,820 operate and survive with and meanwhile 1655 01:15:36,930 --> 01:15:34,420 you have exotic technologies and the 1656 01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:36,940 very small percentage of people that are 1657 01:15:42,689 --> 01:15:39,489 in a position to utilize them I think 1658 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:42,699 it's much more likely that this scenario 1659 01:15:47,609 --> 01:15:45,010 was going on in light of all these 1660 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:47,619 cultural examples that you guys have 1661 01:15:52,109 --> 01:15:49,570 just been talking about in terms of how 1662 01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:52,119 the media and how you know our creative 1663 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:55,449 types are coming up constantly with 1664 01:16:00,660 --> 01:15:57,130 these scenarios that there really are 1665 01:16:03,390 --> 01:16:00,670 suggesting that that us lowly people the 1666 01:16:05,100 --> 01:16:03,400 great unwashed masses are are being kind 1667 01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:05,110 of held in check by a breakaway 1668 01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:07,570 civilization which is basically what 1669 01:16:11,070 --> 01:16:09,520 Elysium and and a few of these other 1670 01:16:12,899 --> 01:16:11,080 examples that you've been talking about 1671 01:16:15,540 --> 01:16:12,909 that's that's basically what this 1672 01:16:17,820 --> 01:16:15,550 situation could be described as so what 1673 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:17,830 do you think about that rpj will have 1674 01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:19,449 his answer in our 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1787 01:21:37,510 --> 01:21:34,220 the state of things rpj there is a guy 1788 01:21:39,370 --> 01:21:37,520 named dr. Christopher Ryan who wrote a 1789 01:21:41,910 --> 01:21:39,380 book titled sexathon 1790 01:21:45,010 --> 01:21:41,920 he also has a podcast called 1791 01:21:47,620 --> 01:21:45,020 tangentially speaking which I follow 1792 01:21:50,650 --> 01:21:47,630 regularly and she had something very 1793 01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:50,660 interesting about how people are fearing 1794 01:21:56,710 --> 01:21:55,010 something like the singularity and the 1795 01:22:00,160 --> 01:21:56,720 transhuman is moving to help some people 1796 01:22:03,070 --> 01:22:00,170 had this like very sci-fi idea of one 1797 01:22:06,220 --> 01:22:03,080 day you know the machines coming you 1798 01:22:09,310 --> 01:22:06,230 know to rebel against us and start to 1799 01:22:11,890 --> 01:22:09,320 run things but in his opinion you know 1800 01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:11,900 this already happened you know we 1801 01:22:17,380 --> 01:22:14,650 already live in an age in which and non 1802 01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:17,390 non-human synthetic organisms are 1803 01:22:23,410 --> 01:22:19,570 running the planet we just call them 1804 01:22:26,740 --> 01:22:23,420 corporations and these corporations are 1805 01:22:29,110 --> 01:22:26,750 like these immortal entities that are 1806 01:22:31,300 --> 01:22:29,120 only interested in self-preservation and 1807 01:22:33,780 --> 01:22:31,310 are consuming all the resources of the 1808 01:22:38,890 --> 01:22:33,790 planet and are you know it's just 1809 01:22:41,770 --> 01:22:38,900 enslaving that 99% of impact of humanity 1810 01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:41,780 that only you know there can there only 1811 01:22:46,300 --> 01:22:44,480 focus on trying to to make to make ends 1812 01:22:50,770 --> 01:22:46,310 meet you know instead of you know trying 1813 01:22:53,970 --> 01:22:50,780 to to to look at like we do that trying 1814 01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:53,980 to find answers to it all these 1815 01:22:58,750 --> 01:22:57,290 mysteries you know so there's something 1816 01:23:00,920 --> 01:22:58,760 about that you know I think he has a 1817 01:23:03,290 --> 01:23:00,930 point we always talked about 1818 01:23:05,540 --> 01:23:03,300 these ways of destroying the world of 1819 01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:05,550 course in the movie Independence Day the 1820 01:23:12,020 --> 01:23:08,850 1% with these locusts like creatures can 1821 01:23:14,030 --> 01:23:12,030 come to a planet they exploit the 1822 01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:14,040 natural resources and when everything is 1823 01:23:18,620 --> 01:23:16,560 laid waste they go on to another planet 1824 01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:18,630 and their mothership carries their 1825 01:23:24,370 --> 01:23:21,330 entire civilization yeah I think that 1826 01:23:27,590 --> 01:23:24,380 there's some like something like Chris 1827 01:23:29,930 --> 01:23:27,600 proposed in his books have the idea that 1828 01:23:32,480 --> 01:23:29,940 maybe they're there these phenomenon 1829 01:23:36,260 --> 01:23:32,490 this trickster like phenomenon is trying 1830 01:23:38,750 --> 01:23:36,270 to coax us out of the planet because you 1831 01:23:41,510 --> 01:23:38,760 know we are the planet this may be like 1832 01:23:44,770 --> 01:23:41,520 an egg or maybe like we are like eaters 1833 01:23:48,110 --> 01:23:44,780 inside the placenta and the placenta 1834 01:23:51,410 --> 01:23:48,120 starts to become toxic you know as a way 1835 01:23:53,330 --> 01:23:51,420 to provoke the birth of a child so maybe 1836 01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:53,340 maybe that's what happened maybe we 1837 01:23:58,280 --> 01:23:56,010 subconsciously I turned our our planet 1838 01:24:01,640 --> 01:23:58,290 toxic so now we have to have no other 1839 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:01,650 option but try to seek to find a new 1840 01:24:06,770 --> 01:24:04,530 home you know in outer space right it's 1841 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:06,780 like a like the planet is a giant mama 1842 01:24:11,420 --> 01:24:08,730 bird trying to kick the little babies 1843 01:24:14,420 --> 01:24:11,430 out of the nest mm-hmm maybe say go go 1844 01:24:17,060 --> 01:24:14,430 fly somewhere yeah I don't mind flying 1845 01:24:18,350 --> 01:24:17,070 somewhere if it's a better place well it 1846 01:24:21,130 --> 01:24:18,360 will be a place you know it will be a 1847 01:24:23,450 --> 01:24:21,140 place where will will there will be 1848 01:24:26,420 --> 01:24:23,460 problems like their world with me you 1849 01:24:30,170 --> 01:24:26,430 know some people say that before trying 1850 01:24:32,210 --> 01:24:30,180 to start this space colonization we 1851 01:24:34,700 --> 01:24:32,220 should try to solve all our problems 1852 01:24:37,460 --> 01:24:34,710 here problem with that is that there 1853 01:24:39,440 --> 01:24:37,470 will always be problems you know reality 1854 01:24:42,190 --> 01:24:39,450 is messy reality is imperfect that's 1855 01:24:45,980 --> 01:24:42,200 that's I mean that's the basis of 1856 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:45,990 reality so wherever we go you know there 1857 01:24:51,380 --> 01:24:48,810 will be there will be humans willing to 1858 01:25:00,410 --> 01:24:51,390 make me trouble yeah we gotta watch out 1859 01:25:02,090 --> 01:25:00,420 for humans mm-hmm that's what some 1860 01:25:03,740 --> 01:25:02,100 people are now proposing that maybe we 1861 01:25:07,380 --> 01:25:03,750 should get rid of you nuts you know 1862 01:25:12,630 --> 01:25:07,390 people like Ray Kurzweil it wants to 1863 01:25:14,990 --> 01:25:12,640 upgrade us and to try to integrate us 1864 01:25:18,090 --> 01:25:15,000 with our own technology another two 1865 01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:18,100 posthuman you know maybe will be then 1866 01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:21,130 according to him smart enough to solve 1867 01:25:27,860 --> 01:25:24,130 the problems that simple he simply might 1868 01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:27,870 in humans and started so many years ago 1869 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:31,290 Chris let's continue with the questions 1870 01:25:39,330 --> 01:25:36,370 okay here's one from trained observer 1871 01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:39,340 again who's one of our most active 1872 01:25:44,790 --> 01:25:42,610 posters he's rapidly approaching 5,000 1873 01:25:47,070 --> 01:25:44,800 messages that he's posted at forum dr. 1874 01:25:48,930 --> 01:25:47,080 Perik ass calm and there's no truth to 1875 01:25:56,460 --> 01:25:48,940 the rumor that he will keep posting till 1876 01:25:58,440 --> 01:25:56,470 he gets it right OTO school we love him 1877 01:26:01,260 --> 01:25:58,450 he's always coming up with interesting 1878 01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:01,270 stuff and huh he's gonna put you on the 1879 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:02,650 spot with this one he says greetings 1880 01:26:07,770 --> 01:26:04,810 from one compulsive commentator to 1881 01:26:10,170 --> 01:26:07,780 another do you think that there are any 1882 01:26:11,670 --> 01:26:10,180 quote unquote true photographs of aliens 1883 01:26:15,180 --> 01:26:11,680 goes through crypto creatures on the 1884 01:26:17,610 --> 01:26:15,190 internet if not why would that be so 1885 01:26:19,620 --> 01:26:17,620 given the proliferation of cameras in 1886 01:26:21,390 --> 01:26:19,630 the modern world if you think there are 1887 01:26:27,780 --> 01:26:21,400 genuine photos available can you point 1888 01:26:31,380 --> 01:26:27,790 us to them bull boy well about this idea 1889 01:26:33,390 --> 01:26:31,390 that there are so many cameras right now 1890 01:26:35,910 --> 01:26:33,400 available because people are carrying 1891 01:26:41,310 --> 01:26:35,920 smartphones and that's why we should be 1892 01:26:45,420 --> 01:26:41,320 able to have more photos of UFOs or 1893 01:26:48,180 --> 01:26:45,430 whatever you know the other day and I 1894 01:26:51,030 --> 01:26:48,190 was in my in my office and I saw this 1895 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:51,040 very beautiful rainbow and I tried to 1896 01:26:56,070 --> 01:26:53,530 take a picture of it with my my 1897 01:26:58,070 --> 01:26:56,080 smartphone camera and after several 1898 01:27:01,680 --> 01:26:58,080 tries you know and even though the 1899 01:27:04,830 --> 01:27:01,690 rainbow was very complacent antiquey it 1900 01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:04,840 didn't run away from me I I couldn't I 1901 01:27:12,350 --> 01:27:08,770 couldn't manage to capture it on the 1902 01:27:18,150 --> 01:27:12,360 image so we have to keep in mind that 1903 01:27:20,220 --> 01:27:18,160 yes there are more a cameras outside 1904 01:27:21,270 --> 01:27:20,230 right now but there are not maybe there 1905 01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:21,280 are not 1906 01:27:26,850 --> 01:27:23,050 they're sensitive enough to capture 1907 01:27:29,550 --> 01:27:26,860 things that the human eye well you got a 1908 01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:29,560 factor in you know the fact that these 1909 01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:31,810 people are looking down into their 1910 01:27:36,570 --> 01:27:33,130 phones they're not even looking around 1911 01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:36,580 so I think that's actually creating more 1912 01:27:40,590 --> 01:27:39,010 of a problem because it used to be you 1913 01:27:42,390 --> 01:27:40,600 didn't have a phone in your hand and you 1914 01:27:44,310 --> 01:27:42,400 weren't texting and you weren't reading 1915 01:27:46,290 --> 01:27:44,320 your emails and stuff as you're walking 1916 01:27:48,980 --> 01:27:46,300 around I'll bet you one thing we'll see 1917 01:27:52,140 --> 01:27:48,990 is a lot more people being hit by cars 1918 01:27:53,340 --> 01:27:52,150 by getting killed in automobile wrecks 1919 01:27:55,980 --> 01:27:53,350 because they're busy with their 1920 01:27:59,640 --> 01:27:55,990 smartphones smartphones are actually the 1921 01:28:01,830 --> 01:27:59,650 opposite of what we need to have people 1922 01:28:03,390 --> 01:28:01,840 be more vigilant of the their 1923 01:28:05,430 --> 01:28:03,400 environment and especially the sky 1924 01:28:08,550 --> 01:28:05,440 around them I think smartphones have 1925 01:28:10,440 --> 01:28:08,560 probably done more damage to potential 1926 01:28:11,730 --> 01:28:10,450 skywatching than any other thing so you 1927 01:28:14,490 --> 01:28:11,740 know there's a downside to everything 1928 01:28:17,190 --> 01:28:14,500 and that's the downside - of all these 1929 01:28:21,270 --> 01:28:17,200 smart phones in my opinion yeah but 1930 01:28:23,310 --> 01:28:21,280 getting back to his question and you 1931 01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:23,320 know in and of a safe way of what you 1932 01:28:28,980 --> 01:28:26,650 were saying and more interested in the 1933 01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:28,990 type of photographs in which you know 1934 01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:31,930 maybe a cameraman wasn't actually aware 1935 01:28:37,770 --> 01:28:34,930 or wasn't intending of of capturing 1936 01:28:40,860 --> 01:28:37,780 anything particularly anomalous I 1937 01:28:41,790 --> 01:28:40,870 remember this I actually looked look it 1938 01:28:47,270 --> 01:28:41,800 up on the Internet 1939 01:28:50,820 --> 01:28:47,280 is a black-and-white photo from 1959 and 1940 01:28:51,810 --> 01:28:50,830 taken back I'm one call made Mabel 1941 01:28:53,970 --> 01:28:51,820 Chinnery 1942 01:28:55,980 --> 01:28:53,980 I was visiting the grave of her mother 1943 01:28:58,350 --> 01:28:55,990 in a British graveyard and he took a 1944 01:29:00,360 --> 01:28:58,360 picture of his husband who was in the 1945 01:29:07,170 --> 01:29:00,370 front seat of a car and on the back you 1946 01:29:10,110 --> 01:29:07,180 see a female figure with glasses and the 1947 01:29:14,780 --> 01:29:10,120 woman claims that that there was no one 1948 01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:14,790 else in the car and that that woman is 1949 01:29:21,660 --> 01:29:19,450 was her death her dead mother you know 1950 01:29:24,090 --> 01:29:21,670 and well I'm not saying this is a 1951 01:29:26,370 --> 01:29:24,100 genuine ghost photograph AIIMS I'm 1952 01:29:30,030 --> 01:29:26,380 saying I always find it interesting you 1953 01:29:34,359 --> 01:29:30,040 know another one that I also comes to 1954 01:29:38,319 --> 01:29:34,369 mind is this famous or infamous 1955 01:29:40,359 --> 01:29:38,329 photo taken in the 1960s in England and 1956 01:29:42,399 --> 01:29:40,369 where you see a little girl in the 1957 01:29:46,239 --> 01:29:42,409 foreground and in the background you see 1958 01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:46,249 a very weird you know PQ human a figure 1959 01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:49,610 with wearing some kind of weird and 1960 01:29:54,429 --> 01:29:53,209 quite like outfit you know like a 1961 01:29:57,699 --> 01:29:54,439 spaceman outfit 1962 01:30:02,229 --> 01:29:57,709 I always found that a picture also 1963 01:30:04,299 --> 01:30:02,239 interesting all right that is very 1964 01:30:06,819 --> 01:30:04,309 interesting and I think we're gonna have 1965 01:30:09,429 --> 01:30:06,829 to a break now you can focus on more 1966 01:30:14,109 --> 01:30:09,439 questions more comments we're exploring 1967 01:30:17,979 --> 01:30:14,119 way way way beyond the final frontier 1968 01:30:20,979 --> 01:30:17,989 our guest is red pill junky that's the 1969 01:30:22,509 --> 01:30:20,989 way he prefers to be mentioned and by 1970 01:30:23,949 --> 01:30:22,519 the way there's another red pill junky 1971 01:30:26,290 --> 01:30:23,959 out there isn't that screwy 1972 01:30:28,540 --> 01:30:26,300 we'll learn never about that with gene 1973 01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:28,550 and Chris you're in the para cast 1974 01:30:45,450 --> 01:30:42,060 we are the premier independent talk 1975 01:30:49,980 --> 01:30:45,460 radio network the genesis communications 1976 01:30:51,390 --> 01:30:49,990 network G C n first game attack of the 1977 01:30:53,460 --> 01:30:51,400 rock ODEs and it was a critically 1978 01:30:55,470 --> 01:30:53,470 acclaimed success and now there is the 1979 01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:55,480 coming of the protectors a former 1980 01:30:59,820 --> 01:30:57,610 military intelligence man is contacted 1981 01:31:02,400 --> 01:30:59,830 by a space woman in a dream a dream that 1982 01:31:03,990 --> 01:31:02,410 turns out to be a nightmare because evil 1983 01:31:05,550 --> 01:31:04,000 forces on our distant planet are 1984 01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:05,560 planning to conquer the earth 1985 01:31:10,350 --> 01:31:07,930 this is gripping science fiction of the 1986 01:31:12,420 --> 01:31:10,360 classic kind attack of the rock codes 1987 01:31:15,030 --> 01:31:12,430 and the coming of the protectors find 1988 01:31:19,170 --> 01:31:15,040 out more at Rocko it's calm that's rock 1989 01:31:20,910 --> 01:31:19,180 oh it's our Ock oids calm so here's what 1990 01:31:23,850 --> 01:31:20,920 happened I was placing an order online 1991 01:31:26,310 --> 01:31:23,860 the site went down it just stopped 1992 01:31:28,050 --> 01:31:26,320 responding it took hours before it 1993 01:31:29,850 --> 01:31:28,060 returned but I'd already placed the 1994 01:31:32,430 --> 01:31:29,860 order with another company 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01:33:44,529 --> 01:33:42,050 IFAs from youngevity by calling eight 2051 01:33:46,899 --> 01:33:44,539 six six seven three five two four seven 2052 01:33:49,419 --> 01:33:46,909 zero that's eight six six seven three 2053 01:33:51,790 --> 01:33:49,429 five twenty four seventy or on the web 2054 01:33:59,970 --> 01:33:51,800 at bright side been calm that's bright 2055 01:34:07,330 --> 01:34:04,290 [Music] 2056 01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:07,340 this is the wrong tire co-author of the 2057 01:34:16,060 --> 01:34:09,650 UFO on Cyclopes and other books you're 2058 01:34:18,430 --> 01:34:16,070 listening to the parrot cat we are for 2059 01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:18,440 the one and only red pill chunky joining 2060 01:34:23,500 --> 01:34:19,970 us in the para cast but wait a minute 2061 01:34:26,170 --> 01:34:23,510 there's another guy using that name rpj 2062 01:34:28,660 --> 01:34:26,180 tell us what's going on I don't know I 2063 01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:28,670 mean I know that there's another one 2064 01:34:32,380 --> 01:34:30,530 using the nickname you can believe it 2065 01:34:34,450 --> 01:34:32,390 and the reason I know is because a 2066 01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:34,460 friend of mine and told me that there 2067 01:34:40,480 --> 01:34:38,090 was before I entered in Twitter that 2068 01:34:44,470 --> 01:34:40,490 there was already a guy in twitter using 2069 01:34:46,330 --> 01:34:44,480 the handle of Reptil junkie so I decided 2070 01:34:50,170 --> 01:34:46,340 to find out and it turns out that the 2071 01:34:51,940 --> 01:34:50,180 guy is also Mexican and also an 2072 01:34:54,790 --> 01:34:51,950 industrial designer you know which is 2073 01:34:57,550 --> 01:34:54,800 their profession I study them I'm 2074 01:35:01,330 --> 01:34:57,560 cooking college so I don't know man talk 2075 01:35:03,310 --> 01:35:01,340 about talk about double genders huh yeah 2076 01:35:09,190 --> 01:35:03,320 maybe he's your evil twin 2077 01:35:10,900 --> 01:35:09,200 maybe I hope he behaves yeah okay well 2078 01:35:13,900 --> 01:35:10,910 yes there's another question from 2079 01:35:17,020 --> 01:35:13,910 Poulter worse this time who's been a 2080 01:35:20,740 --> 01:35:17,030 poster at forum dr. Peric ascom for two 2081 01:35:22,300 --> 01:35:20,750 years and you know he wants to know why 2082 01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:22,310 the fascination with the unexplained 2083 01:35:29,380 --> 01:35:25,010 with you personally in in in people in 2084 01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:29,390 general but he will ask do you have any 2085 01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:30,890 experiences yourself which you couldn't 2086 01:35:35,950 --> 01:35:32,810 explain even after examining in 2087 01:35:38,140 --> 01:35:35,960 examining them thoroughly and would you 2088 01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:38,150 agree that it's illogical to believe in 2089 01:35:42,340 --> 01:35:40,610 the existence of genuine phenomena 2090 01:35:45,100 --> 01:35:42,350 without having had an experience like 2091 01:35:46,420 --> 01:35:45,110 that let's take that one first you've 2092 01:35:48,820 --> 01:35:46,430 mentioned a couple of things that you've 2093 01:35:50,890 --> 01:35:48,830 seen what's the most perplexing thing 2094 01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:50,900 that you cannot explain if you've 2095 01:35:57,100 --> 01:35:54,770 experienced the most perplexing in guy 2096 01:36:04,980 --> 01:35:57,110 experience besides that girl in in high 2097 01:36:07,330 --> 01:36:04,990 school oh boy well I had a very powerful 2098 01:36:07,990 --> 01:36:07,340 synchronicity on my way to the first 2099 01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:08,000 part and 2100 01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:13,730 soon I was I was very nervous back then 2101 01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:16,610 because it was going to be my actual if 2102 01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:18,890 you can believe it at first and trip 2103 01:36:24,190 --> 01:36:21,050 that I was going to do abroad on all on 2104 01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:24,200 my own and I was going to a place where 2105 01:36:29,290 --> 01:36:26,330 actually nobody knew me you know 2106 01:36:33,310 --> 01:36:29,300 personally so I was very very very 2107 01:36:36,250 --> 01:36:33,320 hesitant and I I went to the airport 2108 01:36:39,310 --> 01:36:36,260 carrying a copy of Martian Martian 2109 01:36:42,250 --> 01:36:39,320 Chronicles by Ray Bradbury you know was 2110 01:36:44,170 --> 01:36:42,260 about to end the book I still undecided 2111 01:36:46,420 --> 01:36:44,180 whether I should bring it with me or 2112 01:36:48,550 --> 01:36:46,430 leave it and finish it up to write 2113 01:36:51,940 --> 01:36:48,560 returns but I decided to take it and 2114 01:36:55,450 --> 01:36:51,950 just I was about as I was about to board 2115 01:36:58,360 --> 01:36:55,460 the plane I was reading the last story 2116 01:37:03,340 --> 01:36:58,370 on the book which is there a million 2117 01:37:04,930 --> 01:37:03,350 year old picnic and in that book they it 2118 01:37:07,930 --> 01:37:04,940 was mentioned the city of Minneapolis 2119 01:37:10,150 --> 01:37:07,940 and kind of struck me because I was 2120 01:37:12,340 --> 01:37:10,160 going to Minneapolis in that moment you 2121 01:37:16,780 --> 01:37:12,350 know and and and one of the characters 2122 01:37:18,580 --> 01:37:16,790 name was Mike which is well it's get the 2123 01:37:23,890 --> 01:37:18,590 cats out of the bag that's actually my 2124 01:37:27,700 --> 01:37:23,900 name in mid-space McHale so I found that 2125 01:37:30,340 --> 01:37:27,710 to be kind of a like a a link a little 2126 01:37:32,500 --> 01:37:30,350 wing of the universe telling me that he 2127 01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:32,510 was so all going to be alright and that 2128 01:37:39,130 --> 01:37:37,370 that I was meant to Minneapolis okay 2129 01:37:42,550 --> 01:37:39,140 yeah I love synchronicities when they 2130 01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:42,560 happen most of the time sometimes 2131 01:37:47,530 --> 01:37:45,410 they're a little scary I do have quite a 2132 01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:47,540 number in my life as well there's a 2133 01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:49,250 follow-up question from Paul to worst 2134 01:37:55,480 --> 01:37:52,370 who do you think does more harm to the 2135 01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:55,490 field the debunkers and hoaxers or the 2136 01:38:01,780 --> 01:37:57,170 charlatans catering to the true 2137 01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:01,790 believers oh boy I guess in my opinion 2138 01:38:07,480 --> 01:38:04,490 that will be the debunkers because no 2139 01:38:10,180 --> 01:38:07,490 matter how great a case you might have 2140 01:38:12,390 --> 01:38:10,190 you no matter how good be everything 2141 01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:12,400 should be I might be able to provide 2142 01:38:18,430 --> 01:38:15,650 they will always go and say no you know 2143 01:38:21,709 --> 01:38:18,440 you know they extraordinary claims this 2144 01:38:24,860 --> 01:38:21,719 is the you serve story starting area 2145 01:38:26,689 --> 01:38:24,870 and they are the ones pink they have the 2146 01:38:29,590 --> 01:38:26,699 right to say what exactly is 2147 01:38:33,500 --> 01:38:29,600 extraordinary but then again you know 2148 01:38:36,709 --> 01:38:33,510 bring you back my the teachings of 2149 01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:36,719 Carlos Castaneda nowadays I considered 2150 01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:38,489 the bonkers for what they really are and 2151 01:38:44,990 --> 01:38:42,449 that is their era petty tyrants you know 2152 01:38:47,900 --> 01:38:45,000 it it's a petty tyrant according to 2153 01:38:49,850 --> 01:38:47,910 Carlos catenaries a tormentor someone 2154 01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:49,860 who either holds the power of life and 2155 01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:52,050 death of a warrior or simply annoys them 2156 01:38:59,390 --> 01:38:55,050 to distraction you know so if you see 2157 01:39:01,760 --> 01:38:59,400 the bunkers as a way to to challenge you 2158 01:39:04,459 --> 01:39:01,770 you know to help you really on a 2159 01:39:05,900 --> 01:39:04,469 personal basis to understand why is it 2160 01:39:08,570 --> 01:39:05,910 that you believe in what you believe in 2161 01:39:13,430 --> 01:39:08,580 you know what's the reason behind you 2162 01:39:17,330 --> 01:39:13,440 know allegations they can be actually a 2163 01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:17,340 powerful tool of learning no you in the 2164 01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:20,449 tissues of the of Carlos Castagna a 2165 01:39:27,290 --> 01:39:23,370 warrior should be thankful for petty 2166 01:39:29,630 --> 01:39:27,300 tyrants because it's a chance to to 2167 01:39:31,970 --> 01:39:29,640 challenge your skills you know maybe if 2168 01:39:35,030 --> 01:39:31,980 you look you look at them down that way 2169 01:39:35,689 --> 01:39:35,040 maybe you will you won't be so I know it 2170 01:39:37,310 --> 01:39:35,699 bye-bye 2171 01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:37,320 the bunkers because you will never be 2172 01:39:42,650 --> 01:39:40,410 able to convince right they will never 2173 01:39:46,610 --> 01:39:42,660 go out and say oh you know I was wrong 2174 01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:46,620 and you were right and UFOs exist and 2175 01:39:50,689 --> 01:39:48,810 blah blah blah they're never going to do 2176 01:39:52,430 --> 01:39:50,699 that because that's what they do they 2177 01:39:54,860 --> 01:39:52,440 are professional skeptics you know 2178 01:39:57,890 --> 01:39:54,870 that's what that's their that's what 2179 01:40:00,229 --> 01:39:57,900 they do for a living but do it for 2180 01:40:03,170 --> 01:40:00,239 yourself you know a little position can 2181 01:40:07,870 --> 01:40:03,180 be a very good thing you know if you 2182 01:40:09,979 --> 01:40:07,880 someone is able to provide with cee-lo 2183 01:40:13,490 --> 01:40:09,989 opposition you know civil in 2184 01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:13,500 disagreement it can be a wonderful tool 2185 01:40:18,250 --> 01:40:15,050 of learning 2186 01:40:21,700 --> 01:40:18,260 but then if they're paying you to be a 2187 01:40:24,190 --> 01:40:21,710 house skeptic well you got to make it 2188 01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:24,200 living that's the philosophy mm-hmm 2189 01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:27,170 that's a problem because they think they 2190 01:40:33,100 --> 01:40:29,690 follow my follow a certain agenda but 2191 01:40:35,590 --> 01:40:33,110 there are there are real skeptics you 2192 01:40:37,900 --> 01:40:35,600 know people who are ok skeptics in the 2193 01:40:40,900 --> 01:40:37,910 truest sense of the world not the world 2194 01:40:41,620 --> 01:40:40,910 not the Kai Tak form that we seen some 2195 01:40:45,100 --> 01:40:41,630 surliest 2196 01:40:46,900 --> 01:40:45,110 I would I could name a few like guy 2197 01:40:49,540 --> 01:40:46,910 named Marcin Clemens who is recently 2198 01:40:53,500 --> 01:40:49,550 writing for mysterious universe there's 2199 01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:53,510 also this girl or Haley Stephens and who 2200 01:40:59,620 --> 01:40:56,330 she is or a normal investigator in 2201 01:41:02,080 --> 01:40:59,630 England and she she is very centered you 2202 01:41:04,030 --> 01:41:02,090 know III pay attention to what she has 2203 01:41:06,940 --> 01:41:04,040 to say and even my friend Micah hands 2204 01:41:10,030 --> 01:41:06,950 you know he's grown more sceptics over 2205 01:41:14,190 --> 01:41:10,040 the years and we disagree in a few 2206 01:41:17,980 --> 01:41:14,200 things but he is smart enough to don't 2207 01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:17,990 even aliy invested in his research you 2208 01:41:23,290 --> 01:41:21,290 know he doesn't have to be right all the 2209 01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:23,300 time and he doesn't have to get angry if 2210 01:41:27,700 --> 01:41:25,610 I just don't happen to agree with him 2211 01:41:30,850 --> 01:41:27,710 about I don't know God's rocket so you 2212 01:41:33,070 --> 01:41:30,860 oppose or or whatever Micah Hank is one 2213 01:41:36,990 --> 01:41:33,080 of our favorite guests here why they ask 2214 01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:37,000 you rpj what about some researchers who 2215 01:41:45,130 --> 01:41:40,570 become so wedded to a belief system or a 2216 01:41:48,430 --> 01:41:45,140 particular case if they can't see beyond 2217 01:41:51,430 --> 01:41:48,440 that and if things about that case are 2218 01:41:53,670 --> 01:41:51,440 proven not to be correct they will 2219 01:41:56,830 --> 01:41:53,680 insist almost through their dying day 2220 01:41:59,590 --> 01:41:56,840 that there's no such thing that the case 2221 01:42:01,630 --> 01:41:59,600 is real and I'm not going to mention 2222 01:42:03,730 --> 01:42:01,640 someone like Stanton Friedman and the 2223 01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:03,740 mj-12 documents but I think that's an 2224 01:42:09,790 --> 01:42:06,770 example I don't think the documents hold 2225 01:42:11,890 --> 01:42:09,800 up to scrutiny yeah I think that's also 2226 01:42:14,860 --> 01:42:11,900 another problem in the field you know 2227 01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:14,870 people who are like you said so invested 2228 01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:16,930 in a particular theory that they cannot 2229 01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:19,610 maybe out of fear or me they are of 2230 01:42:26,140 --> 01:42:22,730 trying to lose base you know they cannot 2231 01:42:27,879 --> 01:42:26,150 go and maybe interesting the possibility 2232 01:42:29,530 --> 01:42:27,889 that they are might be wrong so 2233 01:42:32,500 --> 01:42:29,540 that's why one of the reasons that I'm 2234 01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:32,510 and I pay a lot of attention to someone 2235 01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:36,320 like grant Cameron who started on a very 2236 01:42:41,410 --> 01:42:39,650 maybe not some bald she kind of way of 2237 01:42:44,859 --> 01:42:41,420 looking at the phenomenon but and now 2238 01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:44,869 he's progressing to a more and more 2239 01:42:49,330 --> 01:42:47,090 interested in count in the consciousness 2240 01:42:51,700 --> 01:42:49,340 aspect of a phenomena she is an example 2241 01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:51,710 of someone who has evolved in his 2242 01:42:57,310 --> 01:42:54,290 particular way of thinking like Jacques 2243 01:42:59,800 --> 01:42:57,320 Vallee and I pay more attention to those 2244 01:43:01,300 --> 01:42:59,810 kind of researchers well I would 2245 01:43:03,939 --> 01:43:01,310 disagree with you and I would say that 2246 01:43:05,979 --> 01:43:03,949 the hosters and the charlatans could 2247 01:43:08,709 --> 01:43:05,989 create more problems because that 2248 01:43:11,830 --> 01:43:08,719 generally they prey on on what could be 2249 01:43:13,750 --> 01:43:11,840 potentially good minds good 2250 01:43:16,510 --> 01:43:13,760 investigators young people coming up 2251 01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:16,520 wanting to get educated and the muddying 2252 01:43:22,209 --> 01:43:19,730 of the waters by hoaxers and charlatans 2253 01:43:24,939 --> 01:43:22,219 I think makes it much more difficult to 2254 01:43:27,490 --> 01:43:24,949 attract younger people into the field to 2255 01:43:28,390 --> 01:43:27,500 give them an accurate data set of 2256 01:43:31,870 --> 01:43:28,400 information 2257 01:43:34,090 --> 01:43:31,880 I think debunkers have actually a role 2258 01:43:36,879 --> 01:43:34,100 in the process of keeping people on as 2259 01:43:37,930 --> 01:43:36,889 keeping but they're thinking as pristine 2260 01:43:39,850 --> 01:43:37,940 as possible 2261 01:43:41,770 --> 01:43:39,860 you know skeptics are one thing the 2262 01:43:43,510 --> 01:43:41,780 bunkers are another but the debunkers 2263 01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:43,520 you can you can you can tell because 2264 01:43:48,430 --> 01:43:45,770 every other word is no it's not no it's 2265 01:43:50,470 --> 01:43:48,440 not no it's not and that's easy to see 2266 01:43:52,660 --> 01:43:50,480 through some of these people like the 2267 01:43:54,700 --> 01:43:52,670 twins that shall not be named in their 2268 01:43:58,600 --> 01:43:54,710 website putting up all this questionable 2269 01:44:02,439 --> 01:43:58,610 stuff that it surrounds some good stuff 2270 01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:02,449 and by putting the same gravitas on all 2271 01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:05,090 of it you're not differentiating for the 2272 01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:07,130 newcomer then maybe you're not giving 2273 01:44:12,310 --> 01:44:09,170 them a sense of what to really look for 2274 01:44:14,169 --> 01:44:12,320 versus all the crap that its surrounding 2275 01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:14,179 well then you create the impression 2276 01:44:20,109 --> 01:44:17,449 Chris that's all crap because if this is 2277 01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:20,119 and this is nonsense and this is an 2278 01:44:24,700 --> 01:44:23,090 example of the best evidence that UFO 2279 01:44:27,220 --> 01:44:24,710 believers can present don't pay 2280 01:44:29,919 --> 01:44:27,230 attention to it we are paying attention 2281 01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:29,929 to red pill chunky joining gene and 2282 01:44:49,210 --> 01:45:15,990 [Music] 2283 01:45:22,419 --> 01:45:19,299 whether they prey on on what could be 2284 01:45:24,370 --> 01:45:22,429 potentially good minds good 2285 01:45:27,069 --> 01:45:24,380 investigators young people coming up 2286 01:45:32,339 --> 01:45:27,079 wanting to get educated and the mudding 2287 01:45:34,930 --> 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ask you 2343 01:48:11,810 --> 01:48:09,300 what the heck would you care to tell our 2344 01:48:12,580 --> 01:48:11,820 listeners what your real name is we know 2345 01:48:16,790 --> 01:48:12,590 your first name 2346 01:48:19,430 --> 01:48:16,800 yeah my real name is McGill middle okay 2347 01:48:21,890 --> 01:48:19,440 now you know ya heard it here first 2348 01:48:23,900 --> 01:48:21,900 folks okay Miguel but we're still gonna 2349 01:48:25,460 --> 01:48:23,910 call you rpj okay 2350 01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:25,470 let me ask you a question here your 2351 01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:28,770 interior designer you have a family 2352 01:48:34,930 --> 01:48:32,130 no I'm single all right you have family 2353 01:48:37,790 --> 01:48:34,940 members out there who are aware of your 2354 01:48:41,390 --> 01:48:37,800 paranormal pursuits yeah I mean my 2355 01:48:44,660 --> 01:48:41,400 parents no no I'm a blogger that look in 2356 01:48:47,630 --> 01:48:44,670 these kind of things obviously because 2357 01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:47,640 of the fact that I a hundred percent of 2358 01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:49,770 what I write is in English that maybe 2359 01:48:57,680 --> 01:48:54,050 they're not willing or able to follow it 2360 01:49:03,290 --> 01:48:57,690 but no yeah there were that that I'm a 2361 01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:03,300 very active member 14 on blogosphere do 2362 01:49:09,410 --> 01:49:04,770 they have any interest in their subjects 2363 01:49:11,390 --> 01:49:09,420 or not not really you know and back in 2364 01:49:12,530 --> 01:49:11,400 the day when I was younger they kind of 2365 01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:12,540 tease me about it 2366 01:49:19,550 --> 01:49:16,770 you know and for example my sisters and 2367 01:49:23,450 --> 01:49:19,560 they couldn't get over the fact that 2368 01:49:26,270 --> 01:49:23,460 when I was in high school and I was 2369 01:49:29,030 --> 01:49:26,280 reading witnessed Rivers Communion I had 2370 01:49:36,290 --> 01:49:29,040 to sleep with the light on for six full 2371 01:49:38,540 --> 01:49:36,300 months oh my god I can't believe you are 2372 01:49:43,390 --> 01:49:38,550 young a grown man right now you're 2373 01:49:48,830 --> 01:49:43,400 acting like a baby that's funny 2374 01:49:50,540 --> 01:49:48,840 yeah and I mean I had to even keep the 2375 01:49:53,420 --> 01:49:50,550 book you know with the front cover you 2376 01:49:55,370 --> 01:49:53,430 know we did the picture we did like I 2377 01:49:58,460 --> 01:49:55,380 have to keep it upside down because I 2378 01:50:01,420 --> 01:49:58,470 just couldn't stop watching it after the 2379 01:50:04,730 --> 01:50:01,430 lights live the song went dark 2380 01:50:08,450 --> 01:50:04,740 well my crazy brother used to tell me 2381 01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:08,460 all sorts of horror stories I was a kid 2382 01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:11,090 he talked about Frankenstein and Dracula 2383 01:50:18,010 --> 01:50:14,690 vampires and he was the one when I was 2384 01:50:19,899 --> 01:50:18,020 11 he left a copy of a flying saucer 2385 01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:19,909 book on his coffee table at his 2386 01:50:26,580 --> 01:50:22,489 apartment and that's what got me started 2387 01:50:29,050 --> 01:50:26,590 in the subject so it's his fault 2388 01:50:31,270 --> 01:50:29,060 unfortunately he's not here to argue 2389 01:50:34,330 --> 01:50:31,280 with him over the point but somewhere 2390 01:50:36,189 --> 01:50:34,340 out there and I won't say whether it's 2391 01:50:37,500 --> 01:50:36,199 up there or down there it depends on 2392 01:50:41,260 --> 01:50:37,510 your point of view 2393 01:50:42,450 --> 01:50:41,270 he might be laughing at us right now I'm 2394 01:50:44,410 --> 01:50:42,460 sure he is 2395 01:50:51,990 --> 01:50:44,420 well maybe you've talked to him lately 2396 01:50:59,770 --> 01:50:56,879 Chris some more questions okay 2397 01:51:01,660 --> 01:50:59,780 it's another another couple of good 2398 01:51:03,939 --> 01:51:01,670 questions from Paul two words these will 2399 01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:03,949 make you think a little bit do you think 2400 01:51:08,050 --> 01:51:06,530 there is a demand being created by fans 2401 01:51:11,020 --> 01:51:08,060 of these fields that we've been talking 2402 01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:11,030 about the paranormal the forty and stuff 2403 01:51:18,010 --> 01:51:15,650 you think there's fans that need there's 2404 01:51:19,780 --> 01:51:18,020 a demand created by the need for new 2405 01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:19,790 stories new theories new alleged 2406 01:51:24,609 --> 01:51:22,730 phenomena like these new things like 2407 01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:24,619 Slenderman and the dark eyed children 2408 01:51:33,459 --> 01:51:31,250 are we seen is there a chance rather for 2409 01:51:35,500 --> 01:51:33,469 the genuine phenomenon to even be 2410 01:51:37,270 --> 01:51:35,510 recognized in such an environment like 2411 01:51:40,089 --> 01:51:37,280 this with these new things coming along 2412 01:51:44,770 --> 01:51:40,099 and the internet disseminating all this 2413 01:51:48,070 --> 01:51:44,780 stuff what do you think about demand 2414 01:51:51,820 --> 01:51:48,080 being created I don't know if there is a 2415 01:51:55,089 --> 01:51:51,830 demand for new theories because I think 2416 01:51:58,290 --> 01:51:55,099 that overall people most people like 2417 01:52:01,510 --> 01:51:58,300 simple and tidy black-and-white 2418 01:52:04,629 --> 01:52:01,520 explanations no you oppose our stature 2419 01:52:06,550 --> 01:52:04,639 racial space craft Bigfoot is an 2420 01:52:09,399 --> 01:52:06,560 undiscovered primate you know Raman 2421 01:52:12,700 --> 01:52:09,409 Allah Allah around the North American 2422 01:52:15,609 --> 01:52:12,710 forests and the Loch Ness monster it's a 2423 01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:15,619 pleasure sir ghosts are the are the 2424 01:52:21,970 --> 01:52:18,170 souls of the deceased and all that you 2425 01:52:24,250 --> 01:52:21,980 know so I think that only a small 2426 01:52:24,879 --> 01:52:24,260 fraction of people are maybe are more 2427 01:52:28,979 --> 01:52:24,889 interesting 2428 01:52:31,810 --> 01:52:28,989 I cannot miss you or more nuanced 2429 01:52:38,669 --> 01:52:31,820 considerations about the paranormal how 2430 01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:38,679 maybe somehow all of these seemingly 2431 01:52:43,149 --> 01:52:42,050 distinct phenomena maybe might be 2432 01:52:47,649 --> 01:52:43,159 connected somehow 2433 01:52:50,409 --> 01:52:47,659 as for the the conger or the crepe or 2434 01:52:52,389 --> 01:52:50,419 new theories or not inform you and 2435 01:52:56,799 --> 01:52:52,399 stories yet there's always going to be 2436 01:52:59,919 --> 01:52:56,809 people who are who want to read maybe 2437 01:53:03,580 --> 01:52:59,929 about a black guy kids right now are 2438 01:53:06,549 --> 01:53:03,590 very very popular Slenderman you know 2439 01:53:09,609 --> 01:53:06,559 it's also a very popular story right now 2440 01:53:13,779 --> 01:53:09,619 among people who may be you know 10 or 2441 01:53:18,219 --> 01:53:13,789 20 20 years younger than us and well 2442 01:53:21,489 --> 01:53:18,229 that's a Spore is there any hope for for 2443 01:53:24,399 --> 01:53:21,499 a chance of the true phenomenal to be 2444 01:53:27,850 --> 01:53:24,409 recognized I don't know and I think the 2445 01:53:30,100 --> 01:53:27,860 phenomenon will be able to to evolve and 2446 01:53:32,409 --> 01:53:30,110 modify itself in order for us to pay 2447 01:53:35,859 --> 01:53:32,419 attention to it as well as it's always 2448 01:53:39,549 --> 01:53:35,869 have so you take these phenomena they 2449 01:53:43,149 --> 01:53:39,559 kind of appear in certain guises and in 2450 01:53:45,009 --> 01:53:43,159 certain situations in as a way to 2451 01:53:48,310 --> 01:53:45,019 fulfill the expectations of the 2452 01:53:53,529 --> 01:53:48,320 experiencer yeah I think partly and also 2453 01:53:56,049 --> 01:53:53,539 maybe partly following an agenda that we 2454 01:53:59,350 --> 01:53:56,059 might not be able to recognize for 2455 01:54:01,929 --> 01:53:59,360 example I think that this phenomena acts 2456 01:54:04,870 --> 01:54:01,939 this phenomena act in several different 2457 01:54:07,779 --> 01:54:04,880 layers that maybe there is a very 2458 01:54:10,750 --> 01:54:07,789 personal layer that is only meant for 2459 01:54:13,359 --> 01:54:10,760 the direct experience circle there also 2460 01:54:15,429 --> 01:54:13,369 may be the possibility that there's a 2461 01:54:18,850 --> 01:54:15,439 different layer immense 2462 01:54:24,069 --> 01:54:18,860 to like in fact if you want to use that 2463 01:54:26,709 --> 01:54:24,079 term a third parties for example and I 2464 01:54:30,069 --> 01:54:26,719 remembered how Nick Redfern in one of 2465 01:54:32,290 --> 01:54:30,079 his blog post for you've yo mystics 2466 01:54:35,770 --> 01:54:32,300 thought how his interest in these topics 2467 01:54:37,969 --> 01:54:35,780 was spawned by it something his father 2468 01:54:40,129 --> 01:54:37,979 told him when he was a member 2469 01:54:43,819 --> 01:54:40,139 the Royal Air Force I think he was a 2470 01:54:47,919 --> 01:54:43,829 operator and then back in those 2471 01:54:50,779 --> 01:54:47,929 days there was some kind of a weird UFO 2472 01:54:58,370 --> 01:54:50,789 event that was the gist or by the rat 2473 01:55:00,500 --> 01:54:58,380 rather or something and that like piqued 2474 01:55:03,049 --> 01:55:00,510 the curiosity of Johnny the of young 2475 01:55:06,290 --> 01:55:03,059 Nick back then so I proposed to him well 2476 01:55:08,419 --> 01:55:06,300 maybe that sadness or that event that 2477 01:55:10,430 --> 01:55:08,429 happened to you that was also somehow 2478 01:55:13,100 --> 01:55:10,440 meant to you man because here you are 2479 01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:13,110 you know you dedicated your life now to 2480 01:55:18,500 --> 01:55:16,050 study these phenomena so maybe that was 2481 01:55:21,830 --> 01:55:18,510 constant kind of crossword the 2482 01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:21,840 crossroads in your in your path so was 2483 01:55:28,399 --> 01:55:26,130 the decision of my brother to borrow a 2484 01:55:31,790 --> 01:55:28,409 flying saucer book from the New York 2485 01:55:36,199 --> 01:55:31,800 Public Library and leave it so I'd see 2486 01:55:37,609 --> 01:55:36,209 it yeah is that deliberate because all 2487 01:55:40,250 --> 01:55:37,619 you think about it's got to be weird 2488 01:55:42,620 --> 01:55:40,260 because I never knew that guy to be 2489 01:55:44,089 --> 01:55:42,630 interested in any such thing he had an 2490 01:55:45,949 --> 01:55:44,099 interest in science fiction and fantasy 2491 01:55:48,310 --> 01:55:45,959 obviously witnessed the stories you tell 2492 01:55:50,989 --> 01:55:48,320 me I was very young before he left home 2493 01:55:54,469 --> 01:55:50,999 but I never knew him to sit there and 2494 01:55:57,109 --> 01:55:54,479 just read books about UFOs on this 2495 01:56:02,239 --> 01:55:57,119 particular occasion the book was there I 2496 01:56:05,930 --> 01:56:02,249 never ever saw him or saw another book 2497 01:56:09,140 --> 01:56:05,940 like that left for anyone to see just at 2498 01:56:11,299 --> 01:56:09,150 one time yeah I stopped believing in 2499 01:56:14,089 --> 01:56:11,309 coincidences a long time ago I think 2500 01:56:16,939 --> 01:56:14,099 that things like that happened for a 2501 01:56:19,729 --> 01:56:16,949 reason and also normal members of my 2502 01:56:21,589 --> 01:56:19,739 family who didn't have a didn't have a 2503 01:56:24,259 --> 01:56:21,599 particular interest in the topic but 2504 01:56:27,739 --> 01:56:24,269 nevertheless I found in some of their 2505 01:56:31,819 --> 01:56:27,749 persons with their libraries and books 2506 01:56:33,500 --> 01:56:31,829 like written by better fairies or dye 2507 01:56:37,009 --> 01:56:33,510 teams the Israel about and the Loch Ness 2508 01:56:39,589 --> 01:56:37,019 monster enough and those books 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through them poll tourist 2620 02:02:22,890 --> 02:02:21,070 has a couple more this next couple of 2621 02:02:26,970 --> 02:02:22,900 questions I'm really interested to hear 2622 02:02:29,880 --> 02:02:26,980 what RPG has to say about this would you 2623 02:02:34,260 --> 02:02:29,890 agree that UFO sightings seem more 2624 02:02:36,630 --> 02:02:34,270 abundant in Mexico than elsewhere and if 2625 02:02:38,340 --> 02:02:36,640 so could there be a correlation with the 2626 02:02:42,020 --> 02:02:38,350 paranormal being more accepted in 2627 02:02:45,750 --> 02:02:42,030 general there well the UFO sightings are 2628 02:02:49,470 --> 02:02:45,760 definitely abundant in Mexico are are 2629 02:02:51,690 --> 02:02:49,480 there more abundant than other places I 2630 02:02:54,570 --> 02:02:51,700 don't know maybe the people are more 2631 02:02:56,550 --> 02:02:54,580 willing to report it you know or maybe 2632 02:02:59,580 --> 02:02:56,560 we are more willing to spend their 2633 02:03:01,320 --> 02:02:59,590 afternoons you know sitting on the 2634 02:03:04,230 --> 02:03:01,330 rooftop with their camera around town 2635 02:03:07,020 --> 02:03:04,240 just waiting to see if they can they can 2636 02:03:08,730 --> 02:03:07,030 record something anomalous and it's 2637 02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:08,740 something that I discussed recently 2638 02:03:15,780 --> 02:03:11,770 discussed with Greg so how what I would 2639 02:03:18,270 --> 02:03:15,790 like to see and as a progression in the 2640 02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:18,280 in the field is and more people from 2641 02:03:25,070 --> 02:03:20,610 different countries you know starting to 2642 02:03:28,620 --> 02:03:25,080 contribute and to alert and the 2643 02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:28,630 english-speaking community of the events 2644 02:03:32,010 --> 02:03:30,490 happening in their countries because I 2645 02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:32,020 would really like to know what's 2646 02:03:36,030 --> 02:03:34,210 happening in China or what's happening 2647 02:03:38,040 --> 02:03:36,040 in Czechoslovakia what's happening in 2648 02:03:42,690 --> 02:03:38,050 Russia maybe there is that right now a 2649 02:03:45,060 --> 02:03:42,700 big UFO wave in China and we just don't 2650 02:03:47,310 --> 02:03:45,070 know about it because there is these the 2651 02:03:49,860 --> 02:03:47,320 language language barrier 2652 02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:49,870 that brings up yeah that brings up the 2653 02:03:54,180 --> 02:03:51,730 point that a lot of this type of 2654 02:03:57,300 --> 02:03:54,190 information doesn't leave the locality 2655 02:04:00,060 --> 02:03:57,310 of where it's reported I've noticed this 2656 02:04:00,689 --> 02:04:00,070 my ear is out in the field that often 2657 02:04:02,399 --> 02:04:00,699 times a 2658 02:04:04,560 --> 02:04:02,409 locals will have all kinds of 2659 02:04:07,229 --> 02:04:04,570 interesting stories about things going 2660 02:04:09,479 --> 02:04:07,239 on and then in three or four communities 2661 02:04:11,430 --> 02:04:09,489 away they're not aware of it it's only 2662 02:04:15,479 --> 02:04:11,440 when the regional media gets in touch 2663 02:04:18,149 --> 02:04:15,489 with witnesses and and maybe air some 2664 02:04:20,810 --> 02:04:18,159 footage or or it covers a news story 2665 02:04:24,120 --> 02:04:20,820 that then it's slowly this particular 2666 02:04:26,520 --> 02:04:24,130 story gets legs and then spreads and if 2667 02:04:29,370 --> 02:04:26,530 these types of activities continue 2668 02:04:31,890 --> 02:04:29,380 that's when your regional media will be 2669 02:04:34,310 --> 02:04:31,900 you know recognized by by national media 2670 02:04:38,009 --> 02:04:34,320 and then possibly a story will be told 2671 02:04:39,629 --> 02:04:38,019 but it's it's like everything else it's 2672 02:04:41,310 --> 02:04:39,639 right place at the right time you know 2673 02:04:43,589 --> 02:04:41,320 the right person saying the right buzz 2674 02:04:46,319 --> 02:04:43,599 word to the right reporter who's in a 2675 02:04:50,219 --> 02:04:46,329 position to have some influence and get 2676 02:04:53,759 --> 02:04:50,229 a story written a good example of that 2677 02:04:58,199 --> 02:04:53,769 would be the Phoenix lights case which 2678 02:05:01,589 --> 02:04:58,209 was a huge story here in the you know 2679 02:05:04,410 --> 02:05:01,599 central Arizona area but it was until 2680 02:05:07,410 --> 02:05:04,420 four months that the national media got 2681 02:05:09,660 --> 02:05:07,420 a hold of the story that it was two or 2682 02:05:13,439 --> 02:05:09,670 three months actually almost four months 2683 02:05:15,390 --> 02:05:13,449 later and I think the USA Today did a 2684 02:05:18,290 --> 02:05:15,400 big story on it and then all of a sudden 2685 02:05:21,060 --> 02:05:18,300 it became you know world wide news I 2686 02:05:24,060 --> 02:05:21,070 just find a very interesting how the 2687 02:05:26,989 --> 02:05:24,070 culture allows certain things to be 2688 02:05:29,939 --> 02:05:26,999 disseminated at a particular speed and 2689 02:05:33,270 --> 02:05:29,949 with a particular amount of inertia 2690 02:05:36,989 --> 02:05:33,280 behind at night I I think down in Mexico 2691 02:05:40,589 --> 02:05:36,999 as you pointed out people are more 2692 02:05:42,359 --> 02:05:40,599 willing to spend a little time sky 2693 02:05:45,089 --> 02:05:42,369 watching maybe get up on the roof or the 2694 02:05:46,859 --> 02:05:45,099 camera and once they have captured 2695 02:05:50,219 --> 02:05:46,869 something there are people that they 2696 02:05:52,500 --> 02:05:50,229 know of like Jaime and others that they 2697 02:05:55,049 --> 02:05:52,510 can then present this footage to as a 2698 02:05:57,299 --> 02:05:55,059 platform for it to be shown to the to 2699 02:05:59,399 --> 02:05:57,309 the culture at large you don't see that 2700 02:06:04,680 --> 02:05:59,409 happening very much in other countries 2701 02:06:06,689 --> 02:06:04,690 South America to some degree yes but you 2702 02:06:08,850 --> 02:06:06,699 know I really would like to know what's 2703 02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:08,860 going on in China I mean the largest UFO 2704 02:06:14,189 --> 02:06:12,010 group in the world has a million members 2705 02:06:17,220 --> 02:06:14,199 and it's a Chinese UFO 2706 02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:17,230 civilian UFO organization and I think 2707 02:06:22,580 --> 02:06:20,290 more effort personally should be devoted 2708 02:06:25,410 --> 02:06:22,590 by trying to create inroads in 2709 02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:25,420 connections with groups around the world 2710 02:06:32,520 --> 02:06:29,290 I think MUFON really needs to expand its 2711 02:06:36,150 --> 02:06:32,530 efforts and outreach to other countries 2712 02:06:40,410 --> 02:06:36,160 especially countries that have a history 2713 02:06:44,370 --> 02:06:40,420 of sightings and and unusual reports of 2714 02:06:45,060 --> 02:06:44,380 all kinds mm-hmm not that I couldn't 2715 02:06:47,130 --> 02:06:45,070 agree more 2716 02:06:51,419 --> 02:06:47,140 you know I think that there's needs to 2717 02:06:54,209 --> 02:06:51,429 be a wider network of participation you 2718 02:06:57,360 --> 02:06:54,219 know and if we could just see the same 2719 02:07:00,600 --> 02:06:57,370 level of willingness of young people 2720 02:07:02,820 --> 02:07:00,610 trying sharing viral stories like you 2721 02:07:04,890 --> 02:07:02,830 know instead of maybe they've been in 2722 02:07:07,590 --> 02:07:04,900 paid so much attention to Justin Bieber 2723 02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:07,600 or Miley Cyrus and pay more attention to 2724 02:07:14,130 --> 02:07:10,810 the local newspaper on which might have 2725 02:07:17,030 --> 02:07:14,140 run some interesting UFO story and they 2726 02:07:19,620 --> 02:07:17,040 were being tweeted about it you know in 2727 02:07:21,840 --> 02:07:19,630 English or because English let's be 2728 02:07:25,860 --> 02:07:21,850 honest it'd still be the meanwhile 2729 02:07:28,919 --> 02:07:25,870 tronca in the world you know that's the 2730 02:07:31,260 --> 02:07:28,929 way in which you can connect with 99 2731 02:07:33,689 --> 02:07:31,270 percent but it's the content in the 2732 02:07:37,380 --> 02:07:33,699 Internet so if we could manage to 2733 02:07:38,820 --> 02:07:37,390 somehow coax younger generation to start 2734 02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:38,830 paying more attention to what's 2735 02:07:43,860 --> 02:07:40,810 happening around their vicinity and 2736 02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:43,870 share it with the rest of the world 2737 02:07:49,320 --> 02:07:45,730 using the social networks I think that 2738 02:07:52,350 --> 02:07:49,330 would be a very interesting move forward 2739 02:07:54,570 --> 02:07:52,360 yeah did you find the generations 2740 02:07:56,180 --> 02:07:54,580 younger than you you being in your mid 2741 02:08:00,350 --> 02:07:56,190 to late 30s 2742 02:08:02,250 --> 02:08:00,360 do you find them more jaded less 2743 02:08:04,410 --> 02:08:02,260 interested in these subjects 2744 02:08:06,840 --> 02:08:04,420 disinterested in anything but their 2745 02:08:09,330 --> 02:08:06,850 their smartphone whether they're gonna 2746 02:08:12,270 --> 02:08:09,340 get laid and whether they have the right 2747 02:08:14,820 --> 02:08:12,280 kind of tennis shoes all them kids with 2748 02:08:17,729 --> 02:08:14,830 their smartphones under Xbox one when in 2749 02:08:20,070 --> 02:08:17,739 my day yeah we have to the arcade you 2750 02:08:24,270 --> 02:08:20,080 know we have to stay in line you know I 2751 02:08:27,120 --> 02:08:24,280 don't know man I think that people get 2752 02:08:29,790 --> 02:08:27,130 interested in the subject 2753 02:08:32,430 --> 02:08:29,800 kinds of things maybe a lot of teenagers 2754 02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:32,440 became interested in UFOs 2755 02:08:38,610 --> 02:08:35,770 after the Stephenville sighting of a few 2756 02:08:42,300 --> 02:08:38,620 years ago you know what and maybe some 2757 02:08:46,260 --> 02:08:42,310 people and will get interested about the 2758 02:08:49,169 --> 02:08:46,270 phenomenon once and another big UFO flap 2759 02:08:50,729 --> 02:08:49,179 starts in another country that's so you 2760 02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:50,739 think it just this event you have and 2761 02:08:57,000 --> 02:08:54,610 then yeah I think so hmm yeah I could 2762 02:09:00,110 --> 02:08:57,010 see why you'd say that so it's gonna 2763 02:09:03,419 --> 02:09:00,120 take like a real major Phoenix lights 2764 02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:03,429 style sighting that is impossible to 2765 02:09:08,129 --> 02:09:06,010 cover up and gets incredible coverage 2766 02:09:10,110 --> 02:09:08,139 then we'll see a jump start 2767 02:09:12,899 --> 02:09:10,120 I saw it jump start when when the 2768 02:09:15,590 --> 02:09:12,909 x-files came out all of a sudden there 2769 02:09:18,530 --> 02:09:15,600 was a huge interest in UFOs conspiracy 2770 02:09:23,189 --> 02:09:18,540 black budget military projects 2771 02:09:26,040 --> 02:09:23,199 clandestine SIOP type scenarios and 2772 02:09:28,050 --> 02:09:26,050 there seemed to be a 92 an incredible 2773 02:09:30,540 --> 02:09:28,060 upsurge of interest which then 2774 02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:30,550 correspond it to an upsurge in reports 2775 02:09:34,979 --> 02:09:33,370 of all kinds because it seems to me more 2776 02:09:37,490 --> 02:09:34,989 people were interested more people were 2777 02:09:39,870 --> 02:09:37,500 aware of their of their surroundings and 2778 02:09:42,320 --> 02:09:39,880 by being more aware your surroundings 2779 02:09:45,890 --> 02:09:42,330 chances are you're gonna see more 2780 02:09:47,970 --> 02:09:45,900 reports and more levels of activity 2781 02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:47,980 because there's more people interested 2782 02:09:52,290 --> 02:09:50,770 in watching what can we do today to have 2783 02:09:54,419 --> 02:09:52,300 something like that that it's not 2784 02:09:56,189 --> 02:09:54,429 relying on on something hi strange 2785 02:09:58,110 --> 02:09:56,199 happening in front of a lot of people 2786 02:10:00,930 --> 02:09:58,120 and before we have the answer to that 2787 02:10:03,419 --> 02:10:00,940 question we have to do the break right 2788 02:10:07,070 --> 02:10:03,429 now but we do have red pill junky 2789 02:10:09,930 --> 02:10:07,080 joining us our prolific blogger 2790 02:10:12,570 --> 02:10:09,940 commenting on all things strange all 2791 02:10:14,399 --> 02:10:12,580 things unusual and that's where it goes 2792 02:10:23,800 --> 02:10:14,409 you're on with Jeanne and Chris you're 2793 02:10:31,360 --> 02:10:23,810 in the podcast oh man that was good 2794 02:10:33,550 --> 02:10:31,370 a little right a little laughs but 2795 02:10:37,270 --> 02:10:33,560 always independent-minded 2796 02:10:40,810 --> 02:10:37,280 the genesis communications network GC 2797 02:10:43,150 --> 02:10:40,820 and graphic converter is the image 2798 02:10:46,060 --> 02:10:43,160 manipulation tool for the rest of us it 2799 02:10:48,190 --> 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02:14:53,280 extract for a long and healthy life you 2896 02:14:58,910 --> 02:14:55,050 know what we should do here I still 2897 02:15:02,630 --> 02:14:58,920 think we should have a recording on CD 2898 02:15:06,770 --> 02:15:02,640 on iTunes the best of the para cast 2899 02:15:09,550 --> 02:15:06,780 Inger's yeah of course you and Nick 2900 02:15:12,620 --> 02:15:09,560 Redfern Bryce Zabel does a very good job 2901 02:15:14,900 --> 02:15:12,630 we had a good one from Brad Steiger oh 2902 02:15:19,760 --> 02:15:14,910 he's pretty good too yeah he's got a 2903 02:15:21,440 --> 02:15:19,770 good one real good one well I always go 2904 02:15:24,920 --> 02:15:21,450 the original the original is usually the 2905 02:15:26,810 --> 02:15:24,930 best all right so you want us to fire 2906 02:15:29,900 --> 02:15:26,820 some more questions out yeah we do have 2907 02:15:31,250 --> 02:15:29,910 we do have some here oh you don't take 2908 02:15:33,880 --> 02:15:31,260 the questions you're fired no I'm 2909 02:15:38,150 --> 02:15:36,290 let me ask a question now you've 2910 02:15:42,350 --> 02:15:38,160 mentioned Carlos Castaneda a number of 2911 02:15:45,290 --> 02:15:42,360 times I must admit that I was a huge fan 2912 02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:45,300 of Castaneda's work from very early on 2913 02:15:51,140 --> 02:15:47,850 from back in the late sixties early 2914 02:15:53,450 --> 02:15:51,150 seventies prior to high school actually 2915 02:15:57,050 --> 02:15:53,460 I started reading those books and all 2916 02:16:00,320 --> 02:15:57,060 through high school I let's put it this 2917 02:16:03,500 --> 02:16:00,330 way I utilized many of the techniques 2918 02:16:06,470 --> 02:16:03,510 that were suggested in the books to do 2919 02:16:10,220 --> 02:16:06,480 certain things found most of them didn't 2920 02:16:13,340 --> 02:16:10,230 work some did but I'm just wondering now 2921 02:16:17,330 --> 02:16:13,350 that we know much more about Castaneda 2922 02:16:18,160 --> 02:16:17,340 and you know what happened to the to the 2923 02:16:20,450 --> 02:16:18,170 tensity 2924 02:16:22,780 --> 02:16:20,460 movement girls and the deaths that 2925 02:16:26,150 --> 02:16:22,790 happened following his death and 2926 02:16:28,220 --> 02:16:26,160 allegations of about academic fraud and 2927 02:16:29,930 --> 02:16:28,230 in that sort of thing where do you come 2928 02:16:32,240 --> 02:16:29,940 down do you think that it's important 2929 02:16:35,450 --> 02:16:32,250 that all this stuff that he talked about 2930 02:16:38,060 --> 02:16:35,460 was true or do you feel that just the 2931 02:16:41,030 --> 02:16:38,070 way he presented the information was 2932 02:16:43,370 --> 02:16:41,040 enough to give you your jumpstart 2933 02:16:46,100 --> 02:16:43,380 into thinking outside of the box so to 2934 02:16:47,299 --> 02:16:46,110 speak and thinking more in a shamanic 2935 02:16:50,480 --> 02:16:47,309 kind of way 2936 02:16:52,100 --> 02:16:50,490 it was the accuracy is that an issue for 2937 02:16:54,799 --> 02:16:52,110 you does that throw the baby out with 2938 02:16:58,250 --> 02:16:54,809 the bathwater that he he probably made 2939 02:17:01,070 --> 02:16:58,260 up a vast majority of of his narrative 2940 02:17:03,560 --> 02:17:01,080 after let's say journey the excellent 2941 02:17:05,990 --> 02:17:03,570 tales of power and on where do you come 2942 02:17:10,010 --> 02:17:06,000 down on that let me put it to you this 2943 02:17:13,220 --> 02:17:10,020 way I'm pretty sure that the events that 2944 02:17:16,850 --> 02:17:13,230 depicted in the Star Wars movies are all 2945 02:17:19,640 --> 02:17:16,860 fictitious you know 100% but I am pretty 2946 02:17:22,760 --> 02:17:19,650 sure there are fictions that doesn't 2947 02:17:26,810 --> 02:17:22,770 mean I can't find some very valuable 2948 02:17:27,799 --> 02:17:26,820 lessons yeah something that I can take 2949 02:17:29,660 --> 02:17:27,809 away from that 2950 02:17:32,600 --> 02:17:29,670 you know and incorporate it into my 2951 02:17:36,890 --> 02:17:32,610 point into my worldview that's the same 2952 02:17:39,740 --> 02:17:36,900 with Castaneda I I really don't care if 2953 02:17:42,530 --> 02:17:39,750 don't wanna existed or not the ball came 2954 02:17:44,480 --> 02:17:42,540 out if it all came out of the head or 2955 02:17:46,910 --> 02:17:44,490 kosong head and more power to him 2956 02:17:50,209 --> 02:17:46,920 because you know that there's still a 2957 02:17:52,250 --> 02:17:50,219 lot of pretty valuable and philosophical 2958 02:17:54,110 --> 02:17:52,260 or even moral lessons that you can 2959 02:17:56,600 --> 02:17:54,120 extract from his work you know the idea 2960 02:18:01,370 --> 02:17:56,610 of taking responsibility for your 2961 02:18:05,209 --> 02:18:01,380 actions or you know like adopting the 2962 02:18:08,299 --> 02:18:05,219 warrior lifestyle of always you know 2963 02:18:10,820 --> 02:18:08,309 thinking that you are a being that is 2964 02:18:12,320 --> 02:18:10,830 going to die and because because of that 2965 02:18:14,870 --> 02:18:12,330 you have to bring meaning to your 2966 02:18:18,589 --> 02:18:14,880 actions and all that that that is 2967 02:18:23,690 --> 02:18:18,599 valuable regardless of whether he eats 2968 02:18:25,280 --> 02:18:23,700 all fabrication or not yeah I always got 2969 02:18:26,959 --> 02:18:25,290 the impression the first two books were 2970 02:18:29,180 --> 02:18:26,969 spot-on that he was actually 2971 02:18:32,000 --> 02:18:29,190 experiencing those things it's when he 2972 02:18:34,040 --> 02:18:32,010 was when the novel was brought in Don 2973 02:18:35,270 --> 02:18:34,050 Doug Janeiro was brought in and I 2974 02:18:40,100 --> 02:18:35,280 thought that's where it kind of started 2975 02:18:43,430 --> 02:18:40,110 to veer off into the fiction but at the 2976 02:18:45,910 --> 02:18:43,440 same time was fascinating and it had a 2977 02:18:50,270 --> 02:18:45,920 huge effect on a lot of people sold a 2978 02:18:53,450 --> 02:18:50,280 zillion books I might add yeah and I 2979 02:18:55,100 --> 02:18:53,460 think it did change people's perspective 2980 02:18:58,550 --> 02:18:55,110 about to pretend 2981 02:19:00,440 --> 02:18:58,560 magical nature of their reality and it 2982 02:19:02,331 --> 02:19:00,450 was very helpful for those of us that 2983 02:19:05,541 --> 02:19:02,341 were experimenting heavily with 2984 02:19:08,750 --> 02:19:05,551 psychedelics I mean say not a lot of 2985 02:19:11,020 --> 02:19:08,760 people remember him right now but back 2986 02:19:13,190 --> 02:19:11,030 in those days he was one of the 2987 02:19:16,340 --> 02:19:13,200 indisputable leaders of the 2988 02:19:19,581 --> 02:19:16,350 counterculture movement oh yeah and that 2989 02:19:23,420 --> 02:19:19,591 brought about when we like it or not - a 2990 02:19:26,090 --> 02:19:23,430 lot of big social changes that are still 2991 02:19:28,130 --> 02:19:26,100 in a burger eating to our culture to 2992 02:19:31,010 --> 02:19:28,140 this day well he made it kind of 2993 02:19:33,260 --> 02:19:31,020 fashionable and cool and in in stuff to 2994 02:19:36,230 --> 02:19:33,270 be involved in research 2995 02:19:39,680 --> 02:19:36,240 pertaining to Native American secret 2996 02:19:42,740 --> 02:19:39,690 traditions and and the types of shamanic 2997 02:19:44,240 --> 02:19:42,750 practices that that we now know go on 2998 02:19:46,730 --> 02:19:44,250 all over the world and have for 2999 02:19:48,680 --> 02:19:46,740 thousands and thousands of years I think 3000 02:19:51,650 --> 02:19:48,690 an off sheet of the castaƱeda of 3001 02:19:54,140 --> 02:19:51,660 material for instance you can find him 3002 02:19:56,480 --> 02:19:54,150 me the Iowa's Cairo movement and and 3003 02:20:01,180 --> 02:19:56,490 psychedelic got traveled to Peru in 3004 02:20:04,690 --> 02:20:01,190 other places the Amazon to imbibe in and 3005 02:20:08,030 --> 02:20:04,700 have fun with DMT dimethyltryptamine 3006 02:20:10,640 --> 02:20:08,040 which occurs you know in like dopamine 3007 02:20:14,511 --> 02:20:10,650 and other other chemicals occurs 3008 02:20:16,490 --> 02:20:14,521 naturally in the brain yeah I just find 3009 02:20:19,930 --> 02:20:16,500 that caseinate his influence he he 3010 02:20:23,270 --> 02:20:19,940 really subtly influenced a lot of 3011 02:20:25,930 --> 02:20:23,280 progressive thinking especially as it 3012 02:20:27,770 --> 02:20:25,940 relates to psychedelics and spirituality 3013 02:20:30,320 --> 02:20:27,780 along with Terence Mckenna 3014 02:20:32,450 --> 02:20:30,330 there are others obviously that you 3015 02:20:35,541 --> 02:20:32,460 could you could put in that in that 3016 02:20:37,940 --> 02:20:35,551 category but who do you see now as being 3017 02:20:41,751 --> 02:20:37,950 the equivalent let's say for a young 3018 02:20:46,251 --> 02:20:41,761 person coming up wanting to get in touch 3019 02:20:48,051 --> 02:20:46,261 with more of a psycho spiritual side do 3020 02:20:51,110 --> 02:20:48,061 you see anybody there that that you're 3021 02:20:53,740 --> 02:20:51,120 particularly taken by well I guess there 3022 02:20:57,831 --> 02:20:53,750 are a lot of people who are trying to 3023 02:21:00,280 --> 02:20:57,841 reach to the level of and I can and on 3024 02:21:04,581 --> 02:21:00,290 all those before him maybe people like 3025 02:21:07,081 --> 02:21:04,591 and Daniel Pinchbeck well know the guys 3026 02:21:09,390 --> 02:21:07,091 involved in reality sandwich 3027 02:21:12,360 --> 02:21:09,400 but the problem is that maybe he will 3028 02:21:16,560 --> 02:21:12,370 have to die in order to to to attain 3029 02:21:18,451 --> 02:21:16,570 that the popularity of of Makena that 3030 02:21:20,430 --> 02:21:18,461 was something that that I proposed to 3031 02:21:24,421 --> 02:21:20,440 break the other day you know maybe we 3032 02:21:29,841 --> 02:21:24,431 have to to make someone like Mac Tony's 3033 02:21:33,241 --> 02:21:29,851 to turn him into a viral a viral and 3034 02:21:36,001 --> 02:21:33,251 like guru in the in the net the way that 3035 02:21:38,970 --> 02:21:36,011 McKenna became much more relevant after 3036 02:21:41,430 --> 02:21:38,980 he died than when he was still alive you 3037 02:21:44,701 --> 02:21:41,440 know yeah now it's you can hardly you 3038 02:21:46,291 --> 02:21:44,711 can easily find like 1 million comments 3039 02:21:49,051 --> 02:21:46,301 on the internet about Terrence McKenna 3040 02:21:51,150 --> 02:21:49,061 you can find like a thousand video clips 3041 02:21:56,581 --> 02:21:51,160 on YouTube when you can hear him talk 3042 02:21:59,701 --> 02:21:56,591 and people who use his speeches the 3043 02:22:03,180 --> 02:21:59,711 audio maybe in order to create some 3044 02:22:05,400 --> 02:22:03,190 beautiful animation with their computer 3045 02:22:08,970 --> 02:22:05,410 so the guy is getting much more relevant 3046 02:22:12,511 --> 02:22:08,980 in death it was in life you know you 3047 02:22:14,671 --> 02:22:12,521 doing in Buddhism there is the notion of 3048 02:22:18,031 --> 02:22:14,681 the Bodhisattva you know the realized 3049 02:22:20,701 --> 02:22:18,041 master that is helping being into the 3050 02:22:23,461 --> 02:22:20,711 enlightenment of the rest of humanity 3051 02:22:25,741 --> 02:22:23,471 so maybe turner's McKenna Alan Watts and 3052 02:22:28,860 --> 02:22:25,751 August and from Wilson have become like 3053 02:22:31,140 --> 02:22:28,870 PT South but you know digital gurus are 3054 02:22:34,621 --> 02:22:31,150 still living in the internet you know 3055 02:22:36,541 --> 02:22:34,631 and are spreading all these ideas into 3056 02:22:40,110 --> 02:22:36,551 the jungle generations and maybe those 3057 02:22:41,671 --> 02:22:40,120 ideas will elicit a huge social impact 3058 02:22:46,171 --> 02:22:41,681 in the future I think that is already 3059 02:22:49,801 --> 02:22:46,181 happening right now with how the culture 3060 02:22:53,161 --> 02:22:49,811 is moving forward into accepting the use 3061 02:22:57,421 --> 02:22:53,171 of psychedelics and infusions you know 3062 02:23:00,781 --> 02:22:57,431 not just demonize them how in the United 3063 02:23:03,541 --> 02:23:00,791 States there's already two states who 3064 02:23:08,100 --> 02:23:03,551 have legalized recreational use of 3065 02:23:11,161 --> 02:23:08,110 marijuana in elsewhere in the country or 3066 02:23:12,930 --> 02:23:11,171 why fully legalized marijuana and it's 3067 02:23:15,511 --> 02:23:12,940 just the tip of the iceberg you know I 3068 02:23:20,240 --> 02:23:15,521 think that we are going to see like a 3069 02:23:23,270 --> 02:23:20,250 new scan of psychedelic Renaissance 3070 02:23:25,940 --> 02:23:23,280 like wet dream king of delivering yeah 3071 02:23:27,890 --> 02:23:25,950 really I wanted to ask you something RPG 3072 02:23:30,890 --> 02:23:27,900 a very quickly and we have to break for 3073 02:23:33,620 --> 02:23:30,900 the final segment stand ass folks okay 3074 02:23:35,300 --> 02:23:33,630 what is the situation in Mexico because 3075 02:23:38,000 --> 02:23:35,310 we always think of Mexico and drug 3076 02:23:40,520 --> 02:23:38,010 cartels and everything but what about 3077 02:23:42,890 --> 02:23:40,530 marijuana what happens to you if you're 3078 02:23:45,950 --> 02:23:42,900 caught do you want me to answer here 3079 02:23:47,600 --> 02:23:45,960 should we go to the break 3080 02:23:50,090 --> 02:23:47,610 well the question I guess would be 3081 02:23:52,790 --> 02:23:50,100 whether we'd still see you after this 3082 02:23:53,570 --> 02:23:52,800 happened if they found out what was 3083 02:23:55,460 --> 02:23:53,580 going on 3084 02:23:57,710 --> 02:23:55,470 that would be it by the way on next 3085 02:24:01,130 --> 02:23:57,720 week's show we have dr. Bruce Maccabee a 3086 02:24:03,500 --> 02:24:01,140 scientist who has investigated the Gulf 3087 02:24:05,060 --> 02:24:03,510 Breeze Florida UFO case and lots of 3088 02:24:06,770 --> 02:24:05,070 others they'll be answering your 3089 02:24:09,380 --> 02:24:06,780 questions and talking about that next 3090 02:24:12,380 --> 02:24:09,390 week on the show right now we have one 3091 02:24:15,770 --> 02:24:12,390 more segment left with red pill junky 3092 02:24:19,490 --> 02:24:15,780 joining gene and Chris you're in the 3093 02:24:31,421 --> 02:24:25,150 [Music] 3094 02:24:34,270 --> 02:24:31,431 independently leading the way for the 3095 02:24:35,740 --> 02:24:34,280 nation compelling talk for every 3096 02:24:40,060 --> 02:24:35,750 political persuasion 3097 02:24:42,940 --> 02:24:40,070 we are G C and if you want to get your 3098 02:24:45,070 --> 02:24:42,950 website online and you need reliable 3099 02:24:47,230 --> 02:24:45,080 service first-class service at the 3100 02:24:48,850 --> 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dream that 3114 02:25:23,680 --> 02:25:22,070 turns out to be a nightmare because evil 3115 02:25:24,940 --> 02:25:23,690 forces on our distant planet are 3116 02:25:27,581 --> 02:25:24,950 planning to conquer the earth 3117 02:25:30,041 --> 02:25:27,591 this is gripping science fiction of the 3118 02:25:32,110 --> 02:25:30,051 classic kind attack of the rock codes 3119 02:25:34,870 --> 02:25:32,120 and the coming of the protectors find 3120 02:25:39,820 --> 02:25:34,880 out more at rockets calm that's rock oh 3121 02:25:41,591 --> 02:25:39,830 it's ROC KO like des calm this alert 3122 02:25:43,780 --> 02:25:41,601 just came in this special announcement 3123 02:25:46,060 --> 02:25:43,790 is for business owners and leaders of 3124 02:25:48,850 --> 02:25:46,070 organizations who've been waiting for 3125 02:25:50,560 --> 02:25:48,860 the right time to build general steel 3126 02:25:52,360 --> 02:25:50,570 has made it impossible to wait any 3127 02:25:54,520 --> 02:25:52,370 longer with rock-bottom prices that 3128 02:25:56,770 --> 02:25:54,530 could save you thousands that's right 3129 02:25:58,660 --> 02:25:56,780 general steel America's leader in pre 3130 02:26:00,520 --> 02:25:58,670 engineered structures is offering 3131 02:26:03,100 --> 02:26:00,530 buildings at prices you will never see 3132 02:26:05,560 --> 02:26:03,110 again don't miss these prices of 50 by 3133 02:26:07,600 --> 02:26:05,570 100 for under $30,000 3134 02:26:10,511 --> 02:26:07,610 you heard right that's 5000 square feet 3135 02:26:12,400 --> 02:26:10,521 under $30,000 manufacturers if you need 3136 02:26:14,110 --> 02:26:12,410 a larger building try a 100 by 100 3137 02:26:16,030 --> 02:26:14,120 commercial building for a hundred and 3138 02:26:18,131 --> 02:26:16,040 twenty nine thousand you can't afford to 3139 02:26:20,140 --> 02:26:18,141 rent with these prices imagine a 70 by 3140 02:26:22,091 --> 02:26:20,150 100 foot church building for under sixty 3141 02:26:24,011 --> 02:26:22,101 nine thousand dollars with the economy 3142 02:26:26,140 --> 02:26:24,021 improving and interest rate still at 3143 02:26:29,801 --> 02:26:26,150 historic lows you can't afford to wait 3144 02:26:33,220 --> 02:26:29,811 so call 866 91 steel lock in your price 3145 02:26:36,940 --> 02:26:33,230 now take delivery in spring 866 91 steel 3146 02:26:43,910 --> 02:26:36,950 that's eight six six nine one seven 83 3147 02:26:48,751 --> 02:26:46,350 curious about what comes next 3148 02:26:50,910 --> 02:26:48,761 next is the feeling of vulnerability you 3149 02:26:52,620 --> 02:26:50,920 get after you arrive home to discover 3150 02:26:55,140 --> 02:26:52,630 your house has been ransacked by 3151 02:26:58,020 --> 02:26:55,150 burglars fool the bad guys with a new 3152 02:27:00,751 --> 02:26:58,030 improved fake TV you asked for it we 3153 02:27:02,881 --> 02:27:00,761 listened and we made our new fake TV 3154 02:27:05,131 --> 02:27:02,891 three times brighter than our previous 3155 02:27:07,501 --> 02:27:05,141 model the brightness of our new fake TV 3156 02:27:09,990 --> 02:27:07,511 is equivalent to a 40 inch TV it 3157 02:27:13,110 --> 02:27:10,000 simulates the color and motion of a real 3158 02:27:15,120 --> 02:27:13,120 TV while you're away from home and when 3159 02:27:17,041 --> 02:27:15,130 burglars think someone is home watching 3160 02:27:18,780 --> 02:27:17,051 television they're likely to pass your 3161 02:27:22,051 --> 02:27:18,790 house and move on to an easier target 3162 02:27:24,720 --> 02:27:22,061 the new brighter fake TV is only 39.95 3163 02:27:27,720 --> 02:27:24,730 and includes free shipping go to fete 3164 02:27:30,780 --> 02:27:27,730 tv.com or call one eight seven seven 3165 02:27:33,690 --> 02:27:30,790 five fake TV that's eight seven seven 3166 02:27:38,220 --> 02:27:33,700 five three two five three eight eight or 3167 02:27:42,810 --> 02:27:38,230 go to fake tv.com fake TV the burglar 3168 02:27:44,761 --> 02:27:42,820 deterrent oh my back is out again hi dr. 3169 02:27:46,770 --> 02:27:44,771 workman with Wellspring spinal care if 3170 02:27:48,930 --> 02:27:46,780 you're experiencing neck mid or lower 3171 02:27:50,881 --> 02:27:48,940 back pain this information is for you 3172 02:27:52,470 --> 02:27:50,891 one of the complaints that I hear is 3173 02:27:54,751 --> 02:27:52,480 patients receive their typical 3174 02:27:56,791 --> 02:27:54,761 adjustment only having to repeat them as 3175 02:27:58,770 --> 02:27:56,801 the pain returns putting the bones back 3176 02:28:00,480 --> 02:27:58,780 in place is only half of the battle at 3177 02:28:03,120 --> 02:28:00,490 wellspring spinal care we have the 3178 02:28:05,640 --> 02:28:03,130 entire solution we use the Nuka approach 3179 02:28:07,501 --> 02:28:05,650 utilizing 3-dimensional x-rays and 3180 02:28:09,810 --> 02:28:07,511 gentle touch technology to deliver 3181 02:28:11,551 --> 02:28:09,820 specific correction we then design a 3182 02:28:13,830 --> 02:28:11,561 custom nutritional supplement program 3183 02:28:15,990 --> 02:28:13,840 which provides essential nutrients 3184 02:28:17,551 --> 02:28:16,000 targeting the areas of concern with a 3185 02:28:19,830 --> 02:28:17,561 Nuka approach and proper nutrition 3186 02:28:21,751 --> 02:28:19,840 you'll be on your way to a faster and 3187 02:28:23,791 --> 02:28:21,761 more permanent recovery to get you on 3188 02:28:28,620 --> 02:28:23,801 the road to wellness visit dr. Ortman 3189 02:28:30,930 --> 02:28:28,630 calm that's dr. o RT ma n calm or call 3190 02:28:33,450 --> 02:28:30,940 us today nine five two three oh three 3191 02:28:35,730 --> 02:28:33,460 ninety one twenty four that's nine five 3192 02:28:37,680 --> 02:28:35,740 two three oh three ninety one twenty 3193 02:28:42,740 --> 02:28:37,690 four wellspring spinal care chiropractic 3194 02:28:47,460 --> 02:28:45,360 hello this is for us Mary Ellen Kylie 3195 02:28:50,640 --> 02:28:47,470 and you're listening to the podcast 3196 02:29:02,820 --> 02:28:50,650 the gold standard of paranormal radio 3197 02:29:08,530 --> 02:29:06,580 the Everly Brothers or not or maybe it 3198 02:29:11,440 --> 02:29:08,540 is because one of the Everly Brothers is 3199 02:29:13,719 --> 02:29:11,450 now dead we're hearing what would happen 3200 02:29:18,040 --> 02:29:13,729 if the one is still living would tried 3201 02:29:19,929 --> 02:29:18,050 to harmonize with his dead brother RPG a 3202 02:29:21,280 --> 02:29:19,939 red pill junky joining gene and Chris 3203 02:29:25,000 --> 02:29:21,290 and the question I asked him is about 3204 02:29:27,760 --> 02:29:25,010 drug laws in his home country Mexico if 3205 02:29:30,400 --> 02:29:27,770 they catch it what happens depends how 3206 02:29:32,920 --> 02:29:30,410 much they catch it with you know and 3207 02:29:37,300 --> 02:29:32,930 their being in several cases soon and 3208 02:29:40,719 --> 02:29:37,310 young kids who have been planted with 3209 02:29:43,870 --> 02:29:40,729 dope from coming from maybe another 3210 02:29:46,510 --> 02:29:43,880 airport in Peru for example so they come 3211 02:29:48,940 --> 02:29:46,520 to be International Airport in Mexico 3212 02:29:54,099 --> 02:29:48,950 and they register the luggage and they 3213 02:29:56,080 --> 02:29:54,109 found is planted drug and if it can get 3214 02:29:58,420 --> 02:29:56,090 you in a lot of trouble but at the same 3215 02:30:01,389 --> 02:29:58,430 time I think there's definitely a move 3216 02:30:06,219 --> 02:30:01,399 forward into having the discussion that 3217 02:30:09,010 --> 02:30:06,229 of finally legalizing marijuana our 3218 02:30:12,910 --> 02:30:09,020 former President of Mexico Vicente Fox 3219 02:30:15,309 --> 02:30:12,920 is very adamant strong advocating to the 3220 02:30:18,269 --> 02:30:15,319 legalization of marijuana even President 3221 02:30:23,190 --> 02:30:18,279 Calderon who was the one who started the 3222 02:30:28,420 --> 02:30:23,200 push into the war against the cartels in 3223 02:30:31,990 --> 02:30:28,430 2006 by the end of his Aki's turn he 3224 02:30:34,809 --> 02:30:32,000 went to the United Nations and tell he 3225 02:30:38,519 --> 02:30:34,819 called for a serious address into the 3226 02:30:41,530 --> 02:30:38,529 discussion of finally ending these 3227 02:30:45,969 --> 02:30:41,540 pointless war on drugs that has nothing 3228 02:30:48,340 --> 02:30:45,979 but you know and brought pain pain and 3229 02:30:48,630 --> 02:30:48,350 suffering into many nations including my 3230 02:30:50,740 --> 02:30:48,640 own 3231 02:30:53,160 --> 02:30:50,750 all right I find it very interesting 3232 02:30:56,380 --> 02:30:53,170 that the two states that have legalized 3233 02:30:57,940 --> 02:30:56,390 marijuana in or cannabis in the United 3234 02:31:00,840 --> 02:30:57,950 States they're they're two teams are 3235 02:31:05,830 --> 02:31:02,979 well they're going to have brownies 3236 02:31:08,440 --> 02:31:05,840 before they get into that game you guys 3237 02:31:12,099 --> 02:31:08,450 think about it yeah or will they have 3238 02:31:14,290 --> 02:31:12,109 drug testing I think it's still you get 3239 02:31:16,210 --> 02:31:14,300 to no no to get caught with the cannabis 3240 02:31:16,930 --> 02:31:16,220 in your system but there are ways to get 3241 02:31:19,910 --> 02:31:16,940 around 3242 02:31:22,850 --> 02:31:19,920 my guitar player in my band and in the 3243 02:31:25,011 --> 02:31:22,860 90s and Colorado was number two in the 3244 02:31:27,650 --> 02:31:25,021 world as a as a wrestler he's on the US 3245 02:31:29,600 --> 02:31:27,660 Olympic wrestling team and he showed me 3246 02:31:31,700 --> 02:31:29,610 a foolproof way to beat up his test with 3247 02:31:34,310 --> 02:31:31,710 uh he would smoke a joint on the way 3248 02:31:35,480 --> 02:31:34,320 into to get tested and there is a way to 3249 02:31:39,051 --> 02:31:35,490 get around that 3250 02:31:40,430 --> 02:31:39,061 so I guess Alex Rodriguez would be the 3251 02:31:44,770 --> 02:31:40,440 example of somebody who didn't even 3252 02:31:48,740 --> 02:31:44,780 think he'd ever get tested much to his 3253 02:31:50,870 --> 02:31:48,750 former Hall of Fame career he's not 3254 02:31:53,380 --> 02:31:50,880 gonna make the Hall of Fame but you know 3255 02:31:58,340 --> 02:31:53,390 I think it's a prevailing view that is 3256 02:32:00,801 --> 02:31:58,350 dying off with the the generation prior 3257 02:32:05,090 --> 02:32:00,811 to the baby boomers and even into the 3258 02:32:06,801 --> 02:32:05,100 baby boomers I think that that there's 3259 02:32:10,310 --> 02:32:06,811 much more tolerance I think among the 3260 02:32:13,280 --> 02:32:10,320 younger generations and we are seeing 3261 02:32:16,370 --> 02:32:13,290 the polarizing of viewpoints but I think 3262 02:32:20,150 --> 02:32:16,380 I think the tide of tolerance is going 3263 02:32:23,150 --> 02:32:20,160 to outweigh the the reaction reactionary 3264 02:32:25,670 --> 02:32:23,160 uh you know bible-thumper you know super 3265 02:32:30,770 --> 02:32:25,680 conservative types out there of which I 3266 02:32:32,570 --> 02:32:30,780 count myself as not one nor have any 3267 02:32:34,580 --> 02:32:32,580 here all right let's just move quickly 3268 02:32:36,801 --> 02:32:34,590 through topics we're almost half time 3269 02:32:41,780 --> 02:32:36,811 yeah what would you like to tell our 3270 02:32:43,850 --> 02:32:41,790 listeners rpj what what words of wisdom 3271 02:32:46,970 --> 02:32:43,860 projects you're working on things you'd 3272 02:32:49,100 --> 02:32:46,980 like to see wishes wants desires you 3273 02:32:52,970 --> 02:32:49,110 have anything that has been eating away 3274 02:32:56,750 --> 02:32:52,980 at your at yourself well in one of my 3275 02:33:00,350 --> 02:32:56,760 latest blog post or the intrepid 3276 02:33:05,720 --> 02:33:00,360 magazine blog which I thought oh it is 3277 02:33:08,870 --> 02:33:05,730 title shift happens and it was the idea 3278 02:33:13,840 --> 02:33:08,880 is that I would like to see a move 3279 02:33:16,940 --> 02:33:13,850 forward into a more more focusing to be 3280 02:33:22,040 --> 02:33:16,950 the story of human consciousness that 3281 02:33:24,950 --> 02:33:22,050 may be you know just doing what the pill 3282 02:33:28,310 --> 02:33:24,960 has done for so many years just focusing 3283 02:33:29,880 --> 02:33:28,320 on trying to get a better you operating 3284 02:33:33,090 --> 02:33:29,890 okay a better with 3285 02:33:36,540 --> 02:33:33,100 to go on the record about their sighting 3286 02:33:40,349 --> 02:33:36,550 or going to the next town to cows 3287 02:33:43,080 --> 02:33:40,359 wearing you know all these EMF detectors 3288 02:33:45,870 --> 02:33:43,090 and night vision and see what was that I 3289 02:33:52,050 --> 02:33:45,880 think that it's past time that we maybe 3290 02:33:54,990 --> 02:33:52,060 if we could finally prove that a human 3291 02:33:57,540 --> 02:33:55,000 consciousness is no local then maybe 3292 02:34:00,179 --> 02:33:57,550 that will be like the key to open the 3293 02:34:02,790 --> 02:34:00,189 Pandora's box into all these other 3294 02:34:06,000 --> 02:34:02,800 phenomena you know maybe that will bring 3295 02:34:07,769 --> 02:34:06,010 out about a true paradigm change in our 3296 02:34:12,979 --> 02:34:07,779 in our culture you know because I think 3297 02:34:16,800 --> 02:34:12,989 that the materialistic concept is 3298 02:34:19,229 --> 02:34:16,810 finally running its course it's yes it 3299 02:34:22,860 --> 02:34:19,239 has brought us a lot of a lot of time a 3300 02:34:25,410 --> 02:34:22,870 nice pinks in our lives like you know 3301 02:34:30,420 --> 02:34:25,420 computers and internet and all that but 3302 02:34:33,450 --> 02:34:30,430 it hustle also has caused major wreck in 3303 02:34:35,639 --> 02:34:33,460 our in our environment you know with 3304 02:34:37,830 --> 02:34:35,649 climate change and all that maybe we 3305 02:34:42,090 --> 02:34:37,840 need to move forward and maybe if we 3306 02:34:44,670 --> 02:34:42,100 just found out something like that that 3307 02:34:47,610 --> 02:34:44,680 human consciousness is able to survive 3308 02:34:50,340 --> 02:34:47,620 that then maybe we wouldn't be so 3309 02:34:52,320 --> 02:34:50,350 willing to slave ourselves or fifty 3310 02:34:54,750 --> 02:34:52,330 years or more years you know trying to 3311 02:34:56,880 --> 02:34:54,760 make a Leever trying to keep it up with 3312 02:35:00,689 --> 02:34:56,890 the Joneses or the Kardashians or 3313 02:35:04,280 --> 02:35:00,699 whatever and we will look to two other 3314 02:35:08,969 --> 02:35:04,290 interests you know to expand our 3315 02:35:12,420 --> 02:35:08,979 horizons worthy goals but we live in a 3316 02:35:15,019 --> 02:35:12,430 world where people pretend that climate 3317 02:35:17,550 --> 02:35:15,029 change does not exist we have active 3318 02:35:20,880 --> 02:35:17,560 messages about that in our forums as you 3319 02:35:23,219 --> 02:35:20,890 know mm-hmm yeah I think that one of is 3320 02:35:24,719 --> 02:35:23,229 one of the things that worries me the 3321 02:35:29,519 --> 02:35:24,729 most right now I think people are 3322 02:35:33,120 --> 02:35:29,529 talking about a big oil or peak water I 3323 02:35:37,080 --> 02:35:33,130 think that right now the biggest threat 3324 02:35:41,580 --> 02:35:37,090 to humanity it's like big trust you know 3325 02:35:43,920 --> 02:35:41,590 people has had lost the trust in their 3326 02:35:48,590 --> 02:35:43,930 official institutions we 3327 02:35:51,960 --> 02:35:48,600 our political leaders we don't trust in 3328 02:35:55,290 --> 02:35:51,970 scientific organisations we don't trust 3329 02:35:59,300 --> 02:35:55,300 corporations I remember that last year 3330 02:36:05,190 --> 02:35:59,310 when there was this news about the big 3331 02:36:07,140 --> 02:36:05,200 Russian meteor that crashed in this sea 3332 02:36:10,590 --> 02:36:07,150 which whose name I can't remember right 3333 02:36:12,150 --> 02:36:10,600 now that a lot of a big chunk of the 3334 02:36:14,400 --> 02:36:12,160 Russian population didn't believe the 3335 02:36:18,590 --> 02:36:14,410 story they thought it was just a 3336 02:36:22,950 --> 02:36:18,600 publication and I'm sure that maybe if 3337 02:36:25,230 --> 02:36:22,960 tomorrow a group of NASA scientists 3338 02:36:27,660 --> 02:36:25,240 announced that an asteroid is going to 3339 02:36:29,910 --> 02:36:27,670 hit the earth in 10 of 20 years and we 3340 02:36:31,890 --> 02:36:29,920 better do something about it too to 3341 02:36:34,350 --> 02:36:31,900 defend ourselves otherwise we're going 3342 02:36:38,520 --> 02:36:34,360 to suffer the fate of the dinosaurs I 3343 02:36:41,490 --> 02:36:38,530 bet you that eight years from then they 3344 02:36:44,370 --> 02:36:41,500 will still be people thinking that it 3345 02:36:48,810 --> 02:36:44,380 will be news is just a lie just you know 3346 02:36:51,270 --> 02:36:48,820 some type of false flag a conspiracy 3347 02:36:53,100 --> 02:36:51,280 theory you know and that's that's worse 3348 02:36:56,160 --> 02:36:53,110 than well you know I think if they 3349 02:36:58,950 --> 02:36:56,170 announced tomorrow that each he is here 3350 02:37:01,520 --> 02:36:58,960 he is landing in spaceships flying 3351 02:37:04,350 --> 02:37:01,530 saucers are real most people would say 3352 02:37:06,690 --> 02:37:04,360 hmm okay let me get back to watching The 3353 02:37:09,270 --> 02:37:06,700 Real Housewives of LA or whatever the 3354 02:37:10,890 --> 02:37:09,280 show is red pill junky tell our 3355 02:37:13,620 --> 02:37:10,900 listeners where they can find more of 3356 02:37:16,560 --> 02:37:13,630 the things you write about well the 3357 02:37:21,420 --> 02:37:16,570 place where I had Hank the most is the 3358 02:37:24,240 --> 02:37:21,430 daily Grail and www.sailrite.com and 3359 02:37:26,430 --> 02:37:24,250 also a weekly blogger i have a weekly 3360 02:37:29,220 --> 02:37:26,440 column called the red pills of the week 3361 02:37:32,910 --> 02:37:29,230 on mysterious universe mysterious 3362 02:37:37,860 --> 02:37:32,920 universe org I also have a semi-regular 3363 02:37:41,850 --> 02:37:37,870 top post on the intrepid magazine blog 3364 02:37:43,950 --> 02:37:41,860 and I am also a semi-regular and guest 3365 02:37:47,100 --> 02:37:43,960 on a podcast called the grow America 3366 02:37:50,011 --> 02:37:47,110 show which I which I make with my good 3367 02:37:51,240 --> 02:37:50,021 friends Darin and grey hand in Kobe in 3368 02:37:53,849 --> 02:37:51,250 Canada 3369 02:37:55,889 --> 02:37:53,859 okay coming up next week on the power 3370 02:37:58,860 --> 02:37:55,899 cast we'll be featuring dr. Bruce 3371 02:38:01,200 --> 02:37:58,870 Maccabee he's a scientist who has 3372 02:38:04,769 --> 02:38:01,210 studied extensively the Gulf Breeze 3373 02:38:07,290 --> 02:38:04,779 Florida UFO flap and lots more next week 3374 02:38:10,530 --> 02:38:07,300 on the power cast and Chris O'Brien has 3375 02:38:12,900 --> 02:38:10,540 our strange planet calm and very soon 3376 02:38:15,389 --> 02:38:12,910 stalking the herd come we'll be active 3377 02:38:17,429 --> 02:38:15,399 because the book stalking the herd as we 3378 02:38:19,679 --> 02:38:17,439 speak is at the printer he's doing the 3379 02:38:22,440 --> 02:38:19,689 make ready which is a technical term 3380 02:38:24,870 --> 02:38:22,450 folks and getting things ready for this 3381 02:38:27,150 --> 02:38:24,880 humongous book to place your order today 3382 02:38:29,130 --> 02:38:27,160 you can find us on Twitter we're known 3383 02:38:32,780 --> 02:38:29,140 as the power cast we are the power cast 3384 02:38:36,030 --> 02:38:32,790 on Twitter you hear the live stream at 3385 02:38:38,360 --> 02:38:36,040 GCN live.com and now the boost radio 3386 02:38:42,240 --> 02:38:38,370 network calm we're just about everywhere 3387 02:38:44,040 --> 02:38:42,250 right here red pill chunky thank you for 3388 02:38:54,980 --> 02:38:44,050 joining us this week on the power cast 3389 02:39:01,010 --> 02:38:57,980 the para cast featuring Jean Steinberg 3390 02:39:03,850 --> 02:39:01,020 and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted 3391 02:39:07,790 --> 02:39:03,860 presentation of making the impossible 3392 02:39:12,130 --> 02:39:07,800 Incorporated tune in next week for a new